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That's exactly what's going on. Bibi just uses a window of opportunity and forces USA to join in an attempt to regime change in Iran.
by selivanovp 1y ago
That's exactly what's going on. Bibi just uses a window of opportunity and forces USA to join in an attempt to regime change in Iran.
- ty6853 1y ago[flagged]
- tguvot 1y agoeverybody in the neighborhood hates the guts of the iran. iran was major sponsor of terrorism in the middle east for past 40 years and blackmails entire middle east this is what you call "better geopolitically positioned" ?
- IAmBroom 1y agoYeah, I don't live in a slice of the multiverse where Iran is trustworthy in any sense. I'm no fan of Israel's government, but Iran is ground zero for terrorism training worldwide.
- tguvot 1y agobased on the downvotes looks like you and downvoters live in a different universes
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- cholantesh 1y agoOr they see the use of 'terrorism' in this context as the dogwhistle it is.
- tguvot 1y agoI never learned to whistle. I did learn to read https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2021/iran/ https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2... (and if you are going to reply to it, please, explanation how all of those organization are not terrorist organizations)
- cholantesh 1y agoDid you read about how the IDF arms settlers and escorts them into the West Bank, where they harass residents? How about how they arbitrarily arrest and detain Palestinians and torture them without cause? Does this qualify as terrorism or is the US designation all that matters to you? If so, I wonder if you regard the US' documented sponsorship of AQ affiliates as an indication that their heuristic may be flawed. Cute deflection, though.
- akaisoaooaN 1y ago[flagged]
- pinewurst 1y agoIranians are proudly not Arabs.
- dragonwriter 1y ago“Arab / Muslim states” is a clear attempt to craft a concise label that includes the states that are both Arab & Islamic, Lebanon which is Arab and explicitly multiconfessional, and Iran which explictly Islamic and very much not Arab, and also very clearly crafted by someone unfamiliar with the proper usage of Muslim (noun for a person who is a follower of Islam) and Islamic (adjective modifying a noun to indicated that it is associated in some way with Islam.)
- pinewurst 1y agoThe original comment before edit was simply “Arab” sans slash.
- tguvot 1y agoa lot of Lebanese consider themself phoenicians
- akaisoaooaN 1y agoThe label is entirely separate from my point and apologies for the generalization. Middle eastern counties would have avoided all this and stuck to my original point. Neighboring enemies of Israel is probably the most correct description in that regard.
- jalapeno_a 1y ago[flagged]
- weatherlite 1y ago> It's not clear to me why the USA would join forces with Israel instead of Iran. Iran arguably is better geopolitically positioned and an alliance with Iran would buy the US much more of the ME Sure, the U.S can also join forces with Russia and dump Ukraine . Why not ?
- ty6853 1y agoOne thing is for certain, it's not because the US is a reliable ally nor because they have strong morals in international policy.
- foxyv 1y agoAmerica has a history of anti-Muslim rhetoric. Before September 11th, it was a part of the country but not part of the core American identity. Since then it has become a defining characteristic of our politics.
- weatherlite 1y agoMaybe this is because of all the "death to America", "Big Satan" rhetoric in Iran ? Relations with Iran were good until the Ayatollas came into power.
- defrost 1y agoBack in the days when a UK | US installed puppet government extracted oil for the west with little regard for the locals? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta... Some might say the US laid the ground work for an extreme swing to the Ayatollas by delibrately overthrowing a democratically elected government.
- weatherlite 1y ago> with little regard for the locals? Yeah, the current regime has so much regard for the locals ... Whatever the U.S did wrong, perhaps it has, things are 100x worse now.
- defrost 1y agoOf course it was wrong and no wonder things are 100x worse (if that) as a result. None of the post WWII fat thumb on the scale messing with proto democracies for fear of losing resources or ears to communism worked out well.
- weatherlite 1y ago> Of course it was wrong and no wonder things are 100x worse (if that) as a result. OR you could say the pro U.S phase of Iran kept things alright (relatively to after the Islamic revoltion) until it was over and we have the freak show we have today. It is true that the Shaa was a corrupt dictator , but it is not clear to me that the U.S should have disengaged from him. Qatar, Saudi Arabaia, Egypt and Jordan are all different kinds of dictatorships that are relatively pro Western and that the U.S engages with (sometimes even by supporting the regime financially/militarily as with Egypt and Jordan). All in all, pro U.S/West Arab governments are in much better shape than Iran is today.
- trustinmenowpls 1y agoThe same logic could be applied to Russia and China
- quotz 1y ago[flagged]