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What are the telegram features that whatsapp or signal users are missing? I've tried it in the past and all that could be done was due to the platform not havi

What are the telegram features that whatsapp or signal users are missing? I've tried it in the past and all that could be done was due to the platform not having e2e encryption on standard chats.

TiredOfLife 1y ago
Native desktop client for one.
ReptileMan 1y ago
>What are the telegram features that whatsapp or signal users are missing? Onlyfans girls channels.
- elric 1y ago
  Those exist on Whatsapp as well.
shufflerofrocks 1y ago
I shifted to Telegram a few years ago, and it was such a rich experience for me. Off the top of my head: - much much better performance - a good desktop client - open source message clients - scheduling messages - better search - many small gestures/UX features that feel thoughtfully implemented - better channels - message threads - chat folders - very easily programmable & deployable bots for moderation or implementation into your work flow - a lot of customisable settings Telegram is so much further in performance and feature than it's counterparts it's laughable. Almost all of the new features in Whatsapp/Signal were first implemented in Telegram. Some of them, as you said, are feasible because of the non-e2ee chats, but a lot of them are just plain universal.
- prmoustache 1y ago
  I guess all this is available through the business version of whatsapp.
  - shufflerofrocks 1y ago
    Nope, not at all. Not only are most of these features unavailable, getting anything "business-related" done (apart from the template they offer you) is a huge pain.
k_bx 1y ago
It's discord-level feature-rich, e.g. it has "forums/topics", "channels" (which WhatsApp added poorly), much more developed sticker/reactions functionality, "round videos" and other catchy, viral features, at the same time doesn't feel like heavy discord. I've switched off long time ago due to security concerns, but now that I'm using WhatsApp/Signal -- they're just too basic.
p1anecrazy 1y ago
Privacy is a completely valid criticism, but it feels that posters at HN often forget that Telegram was made by geeks in the first place. It was first to give an easy way to send a hi-quality photo instead of a blurry JPEG, the first to let you send 4-5 GB files to yourf friend without any extra effort, which was unbelievable for me as someone who grew up with games played off audio records. And it used to be pretty Wild West - not in regards to porn as critics would say - why would a grown up person search for porn in a social media app - but rather in temporarily standing up for values of free software and media (also something I didn’t experience since early 90s). I think one point not raised here is that Telegram is an attempt to create a global Asian style messenger with quick, sleek and maybe too animated (to my taste) design and vibrant ecosystem. Whatsapp cannot be fast - otherwise Grandmas will not be using it, so Meta always has to compromise, while Telegram can just adapt WeChat/Line features for years with WA limping behind. Signal is cool for people that consider privacy paramount. If I get it right, they are also on a mission of creating safe communication for the most vulnerable. They are just different; I could never make myself start using TikTok, and can completely relate to someone saying Signal has just the right amount of features one needs.

What are the telegram features that whatsapp or signal users are missing? I've tried it in the past and all that could be done was due to the platform not having e2e encryption on standard chats.

TiredOfLife 1y ago

Native desktop client for one.

ReptileMan 1y ago

>What are the telegram features that whatsapp or signal users are missing? Onlyfans girls channels.

elric 1y ago
Those exist on Whatsapp as well.

shufflerofrocks 1y ago

I shifted to Telegram a few years ago, and it was such a rich experience for me. Off the top of my head: - much much better performance - a good desktop client - open source message clients - scheduling messages - better search - many small gestures/UX features that feel thoughtfully implemented - better channels - message threads - chat folders - very easily programmable & deployable bots for moderation or implementation into your work flow - a lot of customisable settings Telegram is so much further in performance and feature than it's counterparts it's laughable. Almost all of the new features in Whatsapp/Signal were first implemented in Telegram. Some of them, as you said, are feasible because of the non-e2ee chats, but a lot of them are just plain universal.

prmoustache 1y ago
I guess all this is available through the business version of whatsapp.
- shufflerofrocks 1y ago
  Nope, not at all. Not only are most of these features unavailable, getting anything "business-related" done (apart from the template they offer you) is a huge pain.

k_bx 1y ago

It's discord-level feature-rich, e.g. it has "forums/topics", "channels" (which WhatsApp added poorly), much more developed sticker/reactions functionality, "round videos" and other catchy, viral features, at the same time doesn't feel like heavy discord. I've switched off long time ago due to security concerns, but now that I'm using WhatsApp/Signal -- they're just too basic.

p1anecrazy 1y ago

Privacy is a completely valid criticism, but it feels that posters at HN often forget that Telegram was made by geeks in the first place. It was first to give an easy way to send a hi-quality photo instead of a blurry JPEG, the first to let you send 4-5 GB files to yourf friend without any extra effort, which was unbelievable for me as someone who grew up with games played off audio records. And it used to be pretty Wild West - not in regards to porn as critics would say - why would a grown up person search for porn in a social media app - but rather in temporarily standing up for values of free software and media (also something I didn’t experience since early 90s). I think one point not raised here is that Telegram is an attempt to create a global Asian style messenger with quick, sleek and maybe too animated (to my taste) design and vibrant ecosystem. Whatsapp cannot be fast - otherwise Grandmas will not be using it, so Meta always has to compromise, while Telegram can just adapt WeChat/Line features for years with WA limping behind. Signal is cool for people that consider privacy paramount. If I get it right, they are also on a mission of creating safe communication for the most vulnerable. They are just different; I could never make myself start using TikTok, and can completely relate to someone saying Signal has just the right amount of features one needs.