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Translation: After going through a far too large number of focus groups that didn't want it we finally found one that phrased a reply in such a way, that after

Translation: After going through a far too large number of focus groups that didn't want it we finally found one that phrased a reply in such a way, that after removing context and playing Chinese whispers up the management chain, can be interpreted as them wanting ads.

TeMPOraL 1y ago
Nah, it's even simpler than that: after shoving enough surveys in users' faces (as they seem to semi-regularly do across all Meta products; I've had at least 2 in WhatsApp alone over the past few months), they've collected enough misclicks and drunk responses to be able to interpret them as lots of people wanting ads.
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- PaulHoule 1y ago
  I was playing a lot of Beat Saber in April and got a survey which asked bizzare questions like “Do I want to use VR to manage my calendar?” They went so far as to ask for times I might be available for a focus group then they ghosted me.
- imiric 1y ago
  You think this decision was based on user feedback at all? The simplest explanation is that they want more revenue, and WhatsApp users were an obvious source they weren't exploiting enough.
  - TeMPOraL 1y ago
    Obviously, but Data Is King, so you need some to wipe and cover your ass even internally.
averageRoyalty 1y ago
Australian? We're one of only a few countries[1] who call the game Chinese Whispers. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_game
- ben_w 1y ago
  Not the OP, but FWIW I'm British and we also called it that in the late 80s.
  - arrowsmith 1y ago
    Don't we still call it that now?
    - megaloblasto 1y ago
      It's telephone now
      - arrowsmith 1y ago
        I'm 34 and I have never heard anyone in the UK refer to this game as "telephone" (although I'm aware that that's what Americans call it.) Is this what the kids say now? Am I getting old?
    - tialaramex 1y ago
      As with "Chinese Fire drill" (referring to disorganised and chaotic efforts) the problem is that it's racist. Not like mid-20th century US "People who look different are the enemy" level racist, but it's still objectionable. So we should avoid doing this, "Telephone" is a perfectly good name for this idea, and it's not racist. There are lots of small changes we can make, which make the world slightly better for everybody.
      - averageRoyalty 1y ago
        You've made a gross assumption about the etymology of the term. There are multiple theories about the origin, some of the racist and some of them not.

TeMPOraL 1y ago

Nah, it's even simpler than that: after shoving enough surveys in users' faces (as they seem to semi-regularly do across all Meta products; I've had at least 2 in WhatsApp alone over the past few months), they've collected enough misclicks and drunk responses to be able to interpret them as lots of people wanting ads.

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PaulHoule 1y ago
I was playing a lot of Beat Saber in April and got a survey which asked bizzare questions like “Do I want to use VR to manage my calendar?” They went so far as to ask for times I might be available for a focus group then they ghosted me.
imiric 1y ago
You think this decision was based on user feedback at all? The simplest explanation is that they want more revenue, and WhatsApp users were an obvious source they weren't exploiting enough.
- TeMPOraL 1y ago
  Obviously, but Data Is King, so you need some to wipe and cover your ass even internally.

averageRoyalty 1y ago

Australian? We're one of only a few countries[1] who call the game Chinese Whispers. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_game

ben_w 1y ago
Not the OP, but FWIW I'm British and we also called it that in the late 80s.
- arrowsmith 1y ago
  Don't we still call it that now?
  - megaloblasto 1y ago
    It's telephone now
    - arrowsmith 1y ago
      I'm 34 and I have never heard anyone in the UK refer to this game as "telephone" (although I'm aware that that's what Americans call it.) Is this what the kids say now? Am I getting old?
  - tialaramex 1y ago
    As with "Chinese Fire drill" (referring to disorganised and chaotic efforts) the problem is that it's racist. Not like mid-20th century US "People who look different are the enemy" level racist, but it's still objectionable. So we should avoid doing this, "Telephone" is a perfectly good name for this idea, and it's not racist. There are lots of small changes we can make, which make the world slightly better for everybody.
    - averageRoyalty 1y ago
      You've made a gross assumption about the etymology of the term. There are multiple theories about the origin, some of the racist and some of them not.