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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai... If the p

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai... If the physical disconnect between killing a person (e.g. UAVs) wasn't enough to make that task easier then further offloading the decision of who to target might help.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> If the physical disconnect between killing a person (e.g. UAVs) wasn't enough to make that task easier then further offloading the decision of who to target might help The physical disconnect hypothesis isn't really borne out by the lack of concern for collateral damage in pre-firearm warfare, when killing was mostly done face to face, compared to today.
golergka 1y ago
Physical connect means that the person who is making the decision to kill is scared for their life. Physical disconnect means he's only scared for a piece of equipment. Guess which one of those is more trigger happy.
grafmax 1y ago
With rising authoritarianism in the US it is highly likely the military will be increasingly deployed against US citizens. Replacing the humans in the loop with AI removes a key safeguard. We’re heading down a very very dark path.
- exe34 1y ago
  Project Insight. I said Hydra had taken over when the orange taint was elected and people denied it.
- ManlyBread 1y ago
  What is this fear mongering?
  - naabb 1y ago
    It's the reality of the situation.
    - ManlyBread 1y ago
      Not for every single person who visits this site. This isn't reddit, explain what you mean and provide a source for your claims.
  - goodpoint 1y ago
    If anything it's an understatement.
- potato3732842 1y ago
  "the military will be increasingly deployed against US citizen" doesn't happen in a vacuum. It comes at the tail end of a long escalation of government/police force. People don't feel nearly as stupid as they ought to for being complicit in the 30-40yr that lead us to where are now
  - grafmax 1y ago
    Globalization broke the unions in the US, the main site of organized popular power. While it’s true that the current state of affairs is part of a longer slide toward authoritarianism, a more accurate etiology would be that it’s the congealing power of the upper class that has been driving the dismantling of democracy. Since concentrated wealth is concentrated power, it is intrinsically anti-democratic. Instead of guilt tripping ourselves we are better off correctly identifying our enemies and organizing together against the forces leading us down this path.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> If the physical disconnect between killing a person (e.g. UAVs) wasn't enough to make that task easier then further offloading the decision of who to target might help The physical disconnect hypothesis isn't really borne out by the lack of concern for collateral damage in pre-firearm warfare, when killing was mostly done face to face, compared to today.

golergka 1y ago

Physical connect means that the person who is making the decision to kill is scared for their life. Physical disconnect means he's only scared for a piece of equipment. Guess which one of those is more trigger happy.

grafmax 1y ago

With rising authoritarianism in the US it is highly likely the military will be increasingly deployed against US citizens. Replacing the humans in the loop with AI removes a key safeguard. We’re heading down a very very dark path.

exe34 1y ago
Project Insight. I said Hydra had taken over when the orange taint was elected and people denied it.
ManlyBread 1y ago
What is this fear mongering?
- naabb 1y ago
  It's the reality of the situation.
  - ManlyBread 1y ago
    Not for every single person who visits this site. This isn't reddit, explain what you mean and provide a source for your claims.
- goodpoint 1y ago
  If anything it's an understatement.
potato3732842 1y ago
"the military will be increasingly deployed against US citizen" doesn't happen in a vacuum. It comes at the tail end of a long escalation of government/police force. People don't feel nearly as stupid as they ought to for being complicit in the 30-40yr that lead us to where are now
- grafmax 1y ago
  Globalization broke the unions in the US, the main site of organized popular power. While it’s true that the current state of affairs is part of a longer slide toward authoritarianism, a more accurate etiology would be that it’s the congealing power of the upper class that has been driving the dismantling of democracy. Since concentrated wealth is concentrated power, it is intrinsically anti-democratic. Instead of guilt tripping ourselves we are better off correctly identifying our enemies and organizing together against the forces leading us down this path.