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> Rationalist: someone who only values positivistic reasoning. Someone like this does not have a useful guide to truth and typically deigns to fill the role the
by kerkeslager 1y ago
> Rationalist: someone who only values positivistic reasoning. Someone like this does not have a useful guide to truth and typically deigns to fill the role themselves.
So... you basically define "rationalist" as someone who is wrong. Sounds like a pointless word to me. And let me guess, you're going to call me a rationalist later, rather than actually respond to anything I said? Let's continue and find out!
> Intuitionist: someone who is comfortable dealing in vague, messy, imprecision. The kind of stuff the real world is based on.
So... someone who doesn't use phrases like "no engineer" because they're obviously wrong in a messy, imprecise world?
It doesn't sound much like you're the intuitionist here, but I am sure you think you are!
> I do not care whether you care or not or whether you think it's wrong or not. This is that 'not having a useful guide to truth so you deign to fill the role yourself'. If you had a useful guide to truth in this instance, your argument that it's wrong would be based on that, not just on your feelings.
My argument wasn't based on my feelings. It's based on your beliefs. I'm appealing to your belief that popularity isn't equivalent to correctness. And if you're going to pretend you don't believe that, I'm out, because you're not making an honest argument.
> An fellow intuitionist would see exactly what I was trying to do, and would help with his own intuitive understandings of business. A rationalist is only interested in reductive determination, so you reductively deduced me to 'sigma grindset' guy.
Wow, what self-congratulatory nonsense.
Maybe, the intuitionist isn't interested in helping you reduce the world into two deterministic roles: hustling business people and quality-focused engineers. Maybe, the intuitionist's experience has led them to a very different intuition, because they actually care about understanding what other people are doing instead of congratulating themselves for getting a business degree.
To use your silly terminology, the intuitionist solution to people like you dismissing pretty obvious facts isn't to argue facts, because you're more interested in sounding smart than in reality. The solution is to dismiss your nonsense as "sigma grindset bullshit" or some equally pejorative AND ACCURATE description. The argumentative equivalent of kicking the Nazi out of the bar.
Believe it or not, one can be an intuitionist without losing interest in the truth. One can both kick the Nazi out of the bar and argue against Nazism.
But hey, if you want to work yourself to death on a hustle that fails because you think hustling sounds masculine, have at that sigma grindset bro. All I ask is that you don't spread that mental illness.
- vinceguidry 1y ago> But hey, if you want to work yourself to death on a hustle that fails because you think hustling sounds masculine, have at that sigma grindset bro. Lol. I trade the markets. One trade, ten minutes. Then I catch up on socials, close up the machine then do whatever the hell I want. You wouldn't catch me dead doing anything remotely resembling hustling. Read my essay again. Or don't!
- kerkeslager 1y agoSo you're spreading an ideology you won't even act on yourself? Great.
- vinceguidry 1y agoYou're really like a dog with a bone, aren't you. Let me be explicit. I was not spreading any kind of ideology. You just believed i was. And because I didn't argue with you in the precise way you wanted me to argue you with, just doubled down on your preconceptions. Letting reactionary emotions be your guide instead of the logic you think you were arguing from.