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Merely slowing down is not enough. If the car doesn't come to a complete stop and remain stopped while the bus has its stop sign extended, it's driving illegall
by ryandrake 1y ago
Merely slowing down is not enough. If the car doesn't come to a complete stop and remain stopped while the bus has its stop sign extended, it's driving illegally.
- BobaFloutist 1y agoI want them to drive legally, but I also want them to be able to react to objects even if they don't have signs on them. Signs are often obstructed by trees or are simply inadequate for safe driving, even when combined with the rules of the road. Any even "partially" automated driving should be able to trivially recognize when its view is compromised and proceed accordingly.
- ryandrake 1y agoTotally agree. "Stop for a stopped school bus" and "Drive slow enough to stop in an emergency, in areas where pedestrians are obscured" are two separate, barely related problems that car companies need to reliably solve.
- instaclay 1y agoThey're saying if there's a school bus inside of a narrow corridor, that a prudent driver would slow down and use caution IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. They're obviously not arguing that the car shouldn't stop with a sign deployed. Arguing from a point of bad faith doesn't advance the discussion.
- ryandrake 1y agoI'm saying slowing down is better, but not enough. If the manufacturer can program the system to slow down when it sees a school bus inside of a narrow corridor, then it can also program the system to (correctly) stop in that situation.