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Oh, I'm going to say something which will rustle even more feathers than this! Don Bluth was far superior to Miyazaki. Also, Miyazaki was a poor father and his

Oh, I'm going to say something which will rustle even more feathers than this! Don Bluth was far superior to Miyazaki. Also, Miyazaki was a poor father and his kids movies sucked (i.e. tales of the earth sea) because he was basically forced into following in his dads footsteps.

WillAdams 1y ago
Folks who are curious about the Le Guin angle on _Tales of Earthsea_ should read: https://www.ursulakleguin.com/adaptation-tales-of-earthsea https://www.ursulakleguin.com/adaptation-tales-of-earthsea It really is unfortunate that this went the way it did --- I'd dearly love for Earthsea to have a film version worthy of the fact that it was one of the first books to ask the question, "Can there be fantasy which is not a retelling of _The Lord of the Rings_?" and to answer with originality and a deep insight into what fantasy has to say about human nature.
christophilus 1y ago
Wasn't Totoro a kids movie? I loved that movie.
- vunderba 1y ago
  Definitely. Lots of Ghibli films (and anime in general) aren't really targeting an age demographic the way the west would. Kiki's Delivery Service, Totoro, Castle in the Sky, Arrietty, etc. are all watchable at any age. Even the more mature films like Princess Mononoke would be unlikely to garner more than a PG rating.
- pilaf 1y ago
  I think GP meant "his kid's movies", as in movies directed by Goro Miyazaki, the son of Hayao Miyazaki.
vunderba 1y ago
I grew up with both Miyazaki and Bluth films. I love Secret of NIMH, All Dogs Go To Heaven, etc. but let's not whitewash over history. He also did "A Troll in Central Park". For every mediocre movie like Earthsea, there's also fantastic movies like Porco Rosso, Spirited Away, Naussica, etc - all of which I watched as a "kid". They both had their highs and lows. Seems rather pointless to try and bench them against each other.
- kyorochan 1y ago
  Earthsea was directed by another Miyazaki, namely Hayao's son Goro.
- Der_Einzige 1y ago
  Even the "Bad" bluth films are excellent. Rock a doodle do is a solid 8.5+/10 and I straight up think critics who leave that film with a bad rating are deluded. Porco Rosso literally reuses music, animations, etc from his other films. I enjoyed the film because a fascist pig cassanova was a fascinating premise - but it's very much derivative. I bench them against one another because my partner is obsessed with Miyazaki and finds Bluth films to be mundane in comparison. Miyazaki has far more cultural capital today than bluth - which is absurd since more Americans grew up watching the land before time than they did watching anything Miyazaki made.

WillAdams 1y ago

Folks who are curious about the Le Guin angle on _Tales of Earthsea_ should read: https://www.ursulakleguin.com/adaptation-tales-of-earthsea https://www.ursulakleguin.com/adaptation-tales-of-earthsea It really is unfortunate that this went the way it did --- I'd dearly love for Earthsea to have a film version worthy of the fact that it was one of the first books to ask the question, "Can there be fantasy which is not a retelling of _The Lord of the Rings_?" and to answer with originality and a deep insight into what fantasy has to say about human nature.

christophilus 1y ago

Wasn't Totoro a kids movie? I loved that movie.

vunderba 1y ago
Definitely. Lots of Ghibli films (and anime in general) aren't really targeting an age demographic the way the west would. Kiki's Delivery Service, Totoro, Castle in the Sky, Arrietty, etc. are all watchable at any age. Even the more mature films like Princess Mononoke would be unlikely to garner more than a PG rating.
pilaf 1y ago
I think GP meant "his kid's movies", as in movies directed by Goro Miyazaki, the son of Hayao Miyazaki.

vunderba 1y ago

I grew up with both Miyazaki and Bluth films. I love Secret of NIMH, All Dogs Go To Heaven, etc. but let's not whitewash over history. He also did "A Troll in Central Park". For every mediocre movie like Earthsea, there's also fantastic movies like Porco Rosso, Spirited Away, Naussica, etc - all of which I watched as a "kid". They both had their highs and lows. Seems rather pointless to try and bench them against each other.

kyorochan 1y ago
Earthsea was directed by another Miyazaki, namely Hayao's son Goro.
Der_Einzige 1y ago
Even the "Bad" bluth films are excellent. Rock a doodle do is a solid 8.5+/10 and I straight up think critics who leave that film with a bad rating are deluded. Porco Rosso literally reuses music, animations, etc from his other films. I enjoyed the film because a fascist pig cassanova was a fascinating premise - but it's very much derivative. I bench them against one another because my partner is obsessed with Miyazaki and finds Bluth films to be mundane in comparison. Miyazaki has far more cultural capital today than bluth - which is absurd since more Americans grew up watching the land before time than they did watching anything Miyazaki made.