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Maybe someone knows. There used to be a sort of Windows sandboxing or at least monitoring app named after a god, maybe 15,+ years ago. It could monitor what an

by oblio 1y ago

Maybe someone knows. There used to be a sort of Windows sandboxing or at least monitoring app named after a god, maybe 15,+ years ago. It could monitor what an app was doing at low level and I think it could even sandbox it. Does anyone know its name?

zzo38computer 1y ago
I do not remember knowing of such a thing (although I might have done and had forgotten), but I would like to see the documentation if it is available.
out-of-ideas 1y ago
there are api monitoring tools; my goto is this: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/pro... MS had a tool that let you set an applications "observed" system variables, like OS ect; this was back in win2000 and before now modernization of the windows compatibility stuff, new stuff sort of superseded it. i currently recollect the exe name even after inspecting a win2000 iso - edit2: apparently apcompat.exe ( lol this archive page triggered some memories: https://ia802200.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/33/items/Windows.NETServer/ACT.iso&file=web%2Ftoolkit%2FACT%2Fhtml%2Fdefault.htm https://ia802200.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/33... ) edit: there were even api firewalls, zonealarm had one, and a number of others. i think people lost interest in locking their systems down as they seem very unpopular nowadays
- oblio 1y ago
  It might have been Sandboxie. I don't remember where I got the dog reference (not god, typo in the original post), but it seems to have been a classic Windows MFC app, and it does date back to 2004, so it would fit the timeframe. I don't remember using it much, I guess configuration was cumbersome, as it generally is for these kinds of per-app/per-permission manual configuration tools.
  - out-of-ideas 1y ago
    did you use the one 15+ years ago? what else can you tell about it? sandboxie is quite old yes; and `dog` vs `god` LOL; did you drop your question in to an LLM? copilot gave me (re dog) winpatrol - though i dont think it has task any application based api stuff https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/winpatrol/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/winpatrol/ there was also things like vmwares thinstall which would wrap up an exe's installation process to make a more or less portable application (edit was here) there were apps like InstallSheild's system monitoring software which could really monitor a systems changes before and after and build installations of files/registries changed then there stuff like Deep Freeze which made windows more or less immutable (to a degree) where a reboot would "restore" the system - useful in schools ect
    - oblio 1y ago
      I used Gemini to find stuff out. But WinPatrol was actually what I vaguely remember, I think...I probably remember it doing more than it actually did, my recollection was that you would install it, run it, and it could intercept, I think, applications you wanted to run. Or you'd run it through WinPatrol? That's why I said Sandboxie is closer to in spirit to what I remembered. It's been closer to 20 years since I used it, I remember a lot of popups, I think, and you could break programs in all sorts of creative ways :-)))
Havoc 1y ago
Vaguely recall something like that. Weird name something with a Q? Something mox? Maybe I’m hallucinating like a LLM
theragra 1y ago
Tried to use chatgpt to find it, no luck.
lazyeye 1y ago
There is windows sandbox https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/application-security/application-isolation/windows-sandbox/ https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/applicati...

by oblio 1y ago

zzo38computer 1y ago

I do not remember knowing of such a thing (although I might have done and had forgotten), but I would like to see the documentation if it is available.

out-of-ideas 1y ago

there are api monitoring tools; my goto is this: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/pro... MS had a tool that let you set an applications "observed" system variables, like OS ect; this was back in win2000 and before now modernization of the windows compatibility stuff, new stuff sort of superseded it. i currently recollect the exe name even after inspecting a win2000 iso - edit2: apparently apcompat.exe ( lol this archive page triggered some memories: https://ia802200.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/33/items/Windows.NETServer/ACT.iso&file=web%2Ftoolkit%2FACT%2Fhtml%2Fdefault.htm https://ia802200.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/33... ) edit: there were even api firewalls, zonealarm had one, and a number of others. i think people lost interest in locking their systems down as they seem very unpopular nowadays

oblio 1y ago
It might have been Sandboxie. I don't remember where I got the dog reference (not god, typo in the original post), but it seems to have been a classic Windows MFC app, and it does date back to 2004, so it would fit the timeframe. I don't remember using it much, I guess configuration was cumbersome, as it generally is for these kinds of per-app/per-permission manual configuration tools.
- out-of-ideas 1y ago
  did you use the one 15+ years ago? what else can you tell about it? sandboxie is quite old yes; and `dog` vs `god` LOL; did you drop your question in to an LLM? copilot gave me (re dog) winpatrol - though i dont think it has task any application based api stuff https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/winpatrol/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/winpatrol/ there was also things like vmwares thinstall which would wrap up an exe's installation process to make a more or less portable application (edit was here) there were apps like InstallSheild's system monitoring software which could really monitor a systems changes before and after and build installations of files/registries changed then there stuff like Deep Freeze which made windows more or less immutable (to a degree) where a reboot would "restore" the system - useful in schools ect
  - oblio 1y ago
    I used Gemini to find stuff out. But WinPatrol was actually what I vaguely remember, I think...I probably remember it doing more than it actually did, my recollection was that you would install it, run it, and it could intercept, I think, applications you wanted to run. Or you'd run it through WinPatrol? That's why I said Sandboxie is closer to in spirit to what I remembered. It's been closer to 20 years since I used it, I remember a lot of popups, I think, and you could break programs in all sorts of creative ways :-)))

Havoc 1y ago

Vaguely recall something like that. Weird name something with a Q? Something mox? Maybe I’m hallucinating like a LLM

theragra 1y ago

Tried to use chatgpt to find it, no luck.

lazyeye 1y ago

There is windows sandbox https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/application-security/application-isolation/windows-sandbox/ https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/applicati...