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> Issues like this always have exceptions and grey areas That's my point. If that holds, then it will also hold that there will be individuals who can call mod

> Issues like this always have exceptions and grey areas That's my point. If that holds, then it will also hold that there will be individuals who can call moderation censorship. Either we accept these categories as equals from the get-go (content filtering), or this doesn't justify equating them, which is what GP said he'd be doing if he felt the cynic rise in them. For what it's worth, it's not that I don't recognize the ideas of moderation and censorship different. It's just that I think of them as different characterizations of the same thing - and then sometimes those characterizations I find fair, sometimes not so much. > I have never come across anyone saying they could give up EU membership as an individual, as individuals are not members of the EU. You're still yet to come across anyone like that, as you're misinterpreting the word "leave" for reasons beyond me. I can leave my home, I can leave my home country, why couldn't I leave [the area of] the EU? Why did you think I was talking about some ceremonial relinquishing of my EU "citizenship" that as you say does not exist? > you are free to do in public. There's nothing stopping anyone from claiming any area as theirs and then imposing rules on them, trivially bypassing this notion. Examples include: not in my backyard, not in front of my house, not in this city, not in this country, etc.

graemep 1y ago
> ou're still yet to come across anyone like that, as you're misinterpreting the word "leave" for reasons beyond me. I think you are misinterpreting people who are either physically moving out, or who want their country to leave the union. DO you really know people who claim they will do the impossible/meaningless? > There's nothing stopping anyone from claiming any area as theirs and then imposing rules on them, trivially bypassing this notion. Examples include: not in my backyard, not in front of my house, not in this city, not in this country, etc. Really? How would they impose their rules on others? I have a neighbour who does not like me marking in front of her house, but there is nothing she can do about it other than make a request. TO change things at city or country level you need to have the power to impose it, so only the government can do it.
- graemep 1y ago
  That should say "parking in from of her house", not "marking"!

graemep 1y ago

> ou're still yet to come across anyone like that, as you're misinterpreting the word "leave" for reasons beyond me. I think you are misinterpreting people who are either physically moving out, or who want their country to leave the union. DO you really know people who claim they will do the impossible/meaningless? > There's nothing stopping anyone from claiming any area as theirs and then imposing rules on them, trivially bypassing this notion. Examples include: not in my backyard, not in front of my house, not in this city, not in this country, etc. Really? How would they impose their rules on others? I have a neighbour who does not like me marking in front of her house, but there is nothing she can do about it other than make a request. TO change things at city or country level you need to have the power to impose it, so only the government can do it.

graemep 1y ago
That should say "parking in from of her house", not "marking"!