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It's curious he doesn't mention that the appropriations bill currently under consideration by the Senate repeals section 174.

yieldcrv 1y ago
This is the second post I've seen on HN lobbying hard for full Section 174 restoration (repealing the bad version, putting back in full engineering salary deductions) while completely ignoring that this is in the giant budget bill that already passed the House and is in the Senate hands I feel like its partially ignorance, and partially trying to distance themselves from benefitting from this law Kind of annoying. This country has a class system. Wish people would just stop pretending and acknowledge where they're at, everyone for Section 174 updates will benefit from the budget and tax bill.
- kcb 1y ago
  Maybe its because giant catch everything bills is a purposely obscure way to legislate.
  - waynesonfire 1y ago
    Its because foreign software engineer labor has 15 year amortization.
- dingnuts 1y ago
  I can't help but notice you haven't actually said the name of the One Big Beautiful Bill. Why could that be? Why can't we have bills that do one thing?
  - yieldcrv 1y ago
    I use it synonymously you can find it in my comment history 4 days ago or so
- ineptech 1y ago
  The article presumably omits mention of Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill" because it also does a raft of other controversial[0] and broadly unpopular[1] things that are much more impactful than, and completely unrelated to, the subject of the essay. 0: kick 7M people off Medicaid, hire 10K new ICE officers, tax university endowments, subsidize fossil fuels, etc https://apnews.com/article/big-beautiful-bill-trump-tax-cuts-medicaid-00ce1ff8a7b7fea7a894d38398748c6b https://apnews.com/article/big-beautiful-bill-trump-tax-cuts... 1: "Voters 53 - 27 percent oppose the legislation, with 20 percent not offering an opinion" https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3924 https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3924
  - danaris 1y ago
    ...not to mention effectively stripping the courts of all ability to enforce decisions against him, by gutting contempt.
- ecshafer 1y ago
  So am I supposed to be against this change that I believe will benefit my profession because it will.. what? Help some people more than others? I should be more masochistic and want things to be worse for myself? What should be in the Big Beautiful Bill that I can start to name it and think its a good idea?
  - Eisenstein 1y ago
    The parent wasn't attacking you, they were saying 'be honest about what you want'. It seems you are incredibly defensive, because on some level you realize that whatever extra advantages you are getting from the bill are going to be paid for by someone else (our future economy, probably, when the value of the dollar gets destroyed because we keep borrowing money to give it to people who already have a ton of it instead of investing it in our infrastructure and workforce). It isn't 'masochism' to give back to society, since without it you wouldn't have the ability to make money at all.
    - ecshafer 1y ago
      I am not being defensive, I am pointing out that this useless, holier than thou attitude that “well actually there are two classes in the us and you shouldnt be happy that laws benefit you is pointless and self defeating by any logic. thats literally how republics work by design.
      - yieldcrv 1y ago
        Airball. I’m saying the opposite. Be happy that laws are benefiting you. Lean into your actual privilege because we aren’t in this together and we should stop pretending we are. Lets be excited that tech employment sector is about to get supercharged after year’s of convulsion and questioning its viability with new trends like generative AI. Specifically because Congress can always correct other aspects of a big law they passed. They can do it quickly! The fact that they don't is a completely separate issue that you could put energy towards if you were using activism energy efficiently.
- atkailash 1y ago
  It does but guess what? You’re not middle class or bourgeois,, so not sure what point you’re trying to make. You sell your labor, you don’t make money by exploiting others. And the middle class is a vague concept that is situational and effectively meaningless, particularly in the contemporary US
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  It's definitely an intentional ignorance. That bill has so many things in it from Ai regulations to medicaid to budgets for the courts and I feel everyday I learn something else got shoved in there. It's not uncommon to sneak an unpopular bill in a popular one, but this thing really is too huge for its own good.

yieldcrv 1y ago

This is the second post I've seen on HN lobbying hard for full Section 174 restoration (repealing the bad version, putting back in full engineering salary deductions) while completely ignoring that this is in the giant budget bill that already passed the House and is in the Senate hands I feel like its partially ignorance, and partially trying to distance themselves from benefitting from this law Kind of annoying. This country has a class system. Wish people would just stop pretending and acknowledge where they're at, everyone for Section 174 updates will benefit from the budget and tax bill.

kcb 1y ago
Maybe its because giant catch everything bills is a purposely obscure way to legislate.
- waynesonfire 1y ago
  Its because foreign software engineer labor has 15 year amortization.
dingnuts 1y ago
I can't help but notice you haven't actually said the name of the One Big Beautiful Bill. Why could that be? Why can't we have bills that do one thing?
- yieldcrv 1y ago
  I use it synonymously you can find it in my comment history 4 days ago or so
ineptech 1y ago
The article presumably omits mention of Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill" because it also does a raft of other controversial[0] and broadly unpopular[1] things that are much more impactful than, and completely unrelated to, the subject of the essay. 0: kick 7M people off Medicaid, hire 10K new ICE officers, tax university endowments, subsidize fossil fuels, etc https://apnews.com/article/big-beautiful-bill-trump-tax-cuts-medicaid-00ce1ff8a7b7fea7a894d38398748c6b https://apnews.com/article/big-beautiful-bill-trump-tax-cuts... 1: "Voters 53 - 27 percent oppose the legislation, with 20 percent not offering an opinion" https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3924 https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3924
- danaris 1y ago
  ...not to mention effectively stripping the courts of all ability to enforce decisions against him, by gutting contempt.
ecshafer 1y ago
So am I supposed to be against this change that I believe will benefit my profession because it will.. what? Help some people more than others? I should be more masochistic and want things to be worse for myself? What should be in the Big Beautiful Bill that I can start to name it and think its a good idea?
- Eisenstein 1y ago
  The parent wasn't attacking you, they were saying 'be honest about what you want'. It seems you are incredibly defensive, because on some level you realize that whatever extra advantages you are getting from the bill are going to be paid for by someone else (our future economy, probably, when the value of the dollar gets destroyed because we keep borrowing money to give it to people who already have a ton of it instead of investing it in our infrastructure and workforce). It isn't 'masochism' to give back to society, since without it you wouldn't have the ability to make money at all.
  - ecshafer 1y ago
    I am not being defensive, I am pointing out that this useless, holier than thou attitude that “well actually there are two classes in the us and you shouldnt be happy that laws benefit you is pointless and self defeating by any logic. thats literally how republics work by design.
    - yieldcrv 1y ago
      Airball. I’m saying the opposite. Be happy that laws are benefiting you. Lean into your actual privilege because we aren’t in this together and we should stop pretending we are. Lets be excited that tech employment sector is about to get supercharged after year’s of convulsion and questioning its viability with new trends like generative AI. Specifically because Congress can always correct other aspects of a big law they passed. They can do it quickly! The fact that they don't is a completely separate issue that you could put energy towards if you were using activism energy efficiently.
atkailash 1y ago
It does but guess what? You’re not middle class or bourgeois,, so not sure what point you’re trying to make. You sell your labor, you don’t make money by exploiting others. And the middle class is a vague concept that is situational and effectively meaningless, particularly in the contemporary US
johnnyanmac 1y ago
It's definitely an intentional ignorance. That bill has so many things in it from Ai regulations to medicaid to budgets for the courts and I feel everyday I learn something else got shoved in there. It's not uncommon to sneak an unpopular bill in a popular one, but this thing really is too huge for its own good.