Fair enough. I asked for 3 examples and we have differing impressions over just the one example you were able to provide. No other examples were provided. If yo

Fair enough. I asked for 3 examples and we have differing impressions over just the one example you were able to provide. No other examples were provided. If you care to list other examples, I'll be willing to allow it as an exercise for future readers for whether they consider those other examples as valid as well and would leave the last word with you.