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well then do it when it's ready, not before?? idk what it is but when a new paradigm comes whether it is AI or AR the bigtech companies always want to ram it d

by swyx 1y ago

well then do it when it's ready, not before?? idk what it is but when a new paradigm comes whether it is AI or AR the bigtech companies always want to ram it down everybody's throats rather than gentle opt-in. its not like they lack enthusiasts who WILL opt in to offer feedback. you have billions of users, including many normies who just want to get shit done and dont even know that you have keynotes or shareholders to impress and dont care about the translucency of your "glass" when they're trying to call 911[0] [0]: see talk (https://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2016/01/25/designing-for-crisis-design-for-real-life/ https://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2016/01/25/designing-for-...) and tldr (https://hookedoncode.com/2015/02/designing-for-crisis-by-eric-meyer-notes-from-an-event-apart-talk/ https://hookedoncode.com/2015/02/designing-for-crisis-by-eri...)

cybrox 1y ago
Changing the UI beforehand is their approach at a gentle introduction. It's just not voluntary.
- ben_w 1y ago
  I'm old enough to remember when the iPhone OS was the gentle introduction to iPad OS — all the rumour sites' mock-ups of the then-upcoming mystery Apple Tablet showed MacOS. In retrospect, watchOS 1.0 was the gentle introduction to what became SwiftUI. At the time, I was a bit frustrated that I couldn't specify widget position and size like I was used to. Honestly I still am frustrated by that. We already had variable size windows back in the days of Win3.11 and System 7 — we've just made it far more complicated to do the same things, and even several years into SwiftUI it feels like we've got more bugs with SwiftUI based apps than we ever had with UIKit, and I'm not sure if that's the layout stuff or the reactive stuff or both.
dinobones 1y ago
Also, do it for the target device not all of them. Liquid glass makes little sense on a tiny iPhone that a lot of people read outside in sunlight.
mumbisChungo 1y ago
>idk what it is the blog post explains this in short, it's simply a continuation of the practices that resulted in apple's dominance in the first place
Pet_Ant 1y ago
> well then do it when it's ready, not before?? This will let them build up an ecosystem of apps ready at launch and it means you are already training users. This are all laying the foundation of a successful future launch.

by swyx 1y ago

cybrox 1y ago

Changing the UI beforehand is their approach at a gentle introduction. It's just not voluntary.

ben_w 1y ago
I'm old enough to remember when the iPhone OS was the gentle introduction to iPad OS — all the rumour sites' mock-ups of the then-upcoming mystery Apple Tablet showed MacOS. In retrospect, watchOS 1.0 was the gentle introduction to what became SwiftUI. At the time, I was a bit frustrated that I couldn't specify widget position and size like I was used to. Honestly I still am frustrated by that. We already had variable size windows back in the days of Win3.11 and System 7 — we've just made it far more complicated to do the same things, and even several years into SwiftUI it feels like we've got more bugs with SwiftUI based apps than we ever had with UIKit, and I'm not sure if that's the layout stuff or the reactive stuff or both.

dinobones 1y ago

Also, do it for the target device not all of them. Liquid glass makes little sense on a tiny iPhone that a lot of people read outside in sunlight.

mumbisChungo 1y ago

>idk what it is the blog post explains this in short, it's simply a continuation of the practices that resulted in apple's dominance in the first place

Pet_Ant 1y ago

> well then do it when it's ready, not before?? This will let them build up an ecosystem of apps ready at launch and it means you are already training users. This are all laying the foundation of a successful future launch.