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Initially, security. Then maybe a realization that you don't need all of your wealth to be secure.

msgodel 1y ago
How does it provide security if you're giving it away? Why do you need it if not working for it means you're more likely to get it for free?
parliament32 1y ago
> maybe a realization that you don't need all of your wealth to be secure Then why wouldn't I just stop working? Why bother working at all if I'm guaranteed to be subsidized by other people?
- input_sh 1y ago
  To give your life a purpose? To do something meaningful and fulfilling? To build something cool? To be able to afford additional, cooler things? To work on a common mission with likeminded people? To contribute something back to the system? To experience how things work in the background? To have a sense of ownership over your productive output? And if you wanna express yourself creatively or just do nothing for a while, that's fine by me too! I'm sure you'd get bored after a while and want to make yourself useful again, so I don't think you should starve in the meantime.
  - msgodel 1y ago
    Oh yeah I forgot that's why I deal with insane corporate administrative bullshit to write bad software that solves problems only generated because of the scale of the internal social interactions: because it gives my life meaning. You have hobbies and personal relationships to give your life meaning, you pay to be allowed to do that not the other way around.
    - darkwater 1y ago
      > You have hobbies and personal relationships to give your life meaning, you pay to be allowed to do that not the other way around. And why don't you want to turn that around?
  - ncruces 1y ago
    I'm sure people who, idk, have to clean up office toilets, do it because it's meaningful and fulfilling.
    - dreghgh 1y ago
      But most people clean their own toilets in their house.
      - msgodel 1y ago
        That's our point. The limit of this is no serious social collaboration. You can't have cities, you can't have industry, everyone lives in small tribal villages until they get run over by other industrious people.

How does it provide security if you're giving it away? Why do you need it if not working for it means you're more likely to get it for free?

parliament32 1y ago

> maybe a realization that you don't need all of your wealth to be secure Then why wouldn't I just stop working? Why bother working at all if I'm guaranteed to be subsidized by other people?

input_sh 1y ago
To give your life a purpose? To do something meaningful and fulfilling? To build something cool? To be able to afford additional, cooler things? To work on a common mission with likeminded people? To contribute something back to the system? To experience how things work in the background? To have a sense of ownership over your productive output? And if you wanna express yourself creatively or just do nothing for a while, that's fine by me too! I'm sure you'd get bored after a while and want to make yourself useful again, so I don't think you should starve in the meantime.
- msgodel 1y ago
  Oh yeah I forgot that's why I deal with insane corporate administrative bullshit to write bad software that solves problems only generated because of the scale of the internal social interactions: because it gives my life meaning. You have hobbies and personal relationships to give your life meaning, you pay to be allowed to do that not the other way around.
  - darkwater 1y ago
    > You have hobbies and personal relationships to give your life meaning, you pay to be allowed to do that not the other way around. And why don't you want to turn that around?
- ncruces 1y ago
  I'm sure people who, idk, have to clean up office toilets, do it because it's meaningful and fulfilling.
  - dreghgh 1y ago
    But most people clean their own toilets in their house.
    - msgodel 1y ago
      That's our point. The limit of this is no serious social collaboration. You can't have cities, you can't have industry, everyone lives in small tribal villages until they get run over by other industrious people.