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Yeah. Personally, I’ve also tried reaching out to people in companies I’m interested in, but automating that just feels dishonest somehow.

tough 1y ago
you should always pre-vet any message you send and sign with your name. it doesnt really matter where the message or how was created, only that you're 100% ok with its contents reaching its destinatatary. that still puts some limits to how much you can -spam- and should make you not want to -spam- but only send real messages, but you can certainly use AI to help you research/generate those leads initial messages i have not tried to do this, but i wouldn't see how its problematic?
- dloku 1y ago
  thanks man!
  - tough 1y ago
    no problem! gl with the job search
- notpushkin 1y ago
  That’s how I would use this (and is my approach to LLMs in general). I’m just afraid that others would take a more lazy approach and spoil it for everybody else: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44274583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44274583
dloku 1y ago
right, we don't automate...
- notpushkin 1y ago
  Yeah, but (if I understand how your product works correctly!) I’m afraid the laziest of your users would just copy-paste the suggested message and send it as is, to as many people as possible. This would quickly saturate the decision-makers’ inboxes, and even those who genuinely put some thought into the roles they apply to and rewrite the suggested openers would be lost in this cacophony. Is there some way to prevent that?
fhd2 1y ago
The reaching out might work, I know some people actually appreciate it. I personally don't, it feels like an attempt to circumvent the system, and the system is in place for a reason: It attempts to make the insane volume of candidate messages manageable. It's not perfect, I wish more people would work on better systems rather than ways to circumvent them. There is one notable exception to this, a guy I actually ended up hiring: The job ad link I posted stopped working after a few days, and he wrote a nice message to the company (!) email address telling us about that, and saying he's interested if the role is still open. That's proactiveness I really appreciate. It's very different from random people reaching out on my personal LinkedIn account or email, which I simply ignore. I'd _love_ it if there wasn't so much noise, then I would probably think about it differently. But the volume does burn you out, and any attempts at circumventing systems put in place to try and manage this is not helpful. And that's for manually written messages. Automating that - Jesus.

tough 1y ago

you should always pre-vet any message you send and sign with your name. it doesnt really matter where the message or how was created, only that you're 100% ok with its contents reaching its destinatatary. that still puts some limits to how much you can -spam- and should make you not want to -spam- but only send real messages, but you can certainly use AI to help you research/generate those leads initial messages i have not tried to do this, but i wouldn't see how its problematic?

dloku 1y ago
thanks man!
- tough 1y ago
  no problem! gl with the job search
notpushkin 1y ago
That’s how I would use this (and is my approach to LLMs in general). I’m just afraid that others would take a more lazy approach and spoil it for everybody else: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44274583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44274583

dloku 1y ago

right, we don't automate...

notpushkin 1y ago
Yeah, but (if I understand how your product works correctly!) I’m afraid the laziest of your users would just copy-paste the suggested message and send it as is, to as many people as possible. This would quickly saturate the decision-makers’ inboxes, and even those who genuinely put some thought into the roles they apply to and rewrite the suggested openers would be lost in this cacophony. Is there some way to prevent that?

fhd2 1y ago

The reaching out might work, I know some people actually appreciate it. I personally don't, it feels like an attempt to circumvent the system, and the system is in place for a reason: It attempts to make the insane volume of candidate messages manageable. It's not perfect, I wish more people would work on better systems rather than ways to circumvent them. There is one notable exception to this, a guy I actually ended up hiring: The job ad link I posted stopped working after a few days, and he wrote a nice message to the company (!) email address telling us about that, and saying he's interested if the role is still open. That's proactiveness I really appreciate. It's very different from random people reaching out on my personal LinkedIn account or email, which I simply ignore. I'd _love_ it if there wasn't so much noise, then I would probably think about it differently. But the volume does burn you out, and any attempts at circumventing systems put in place to try and manage this is not helpful. And that's for manually written messages. Automating that - Jesus.