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Bringing up Oculus and VR is quite fitting, because I think it's the same problem. Meta is attempting to find their next business, but like with social media th

Bringing up Oculus and VR is quite fitting, because I think it's the same problem. Meta is attempting to find their next business, but like with social media they don't really have a plan. It worked out well with Facebook and some of the purchases surrounding social media, but it was never a clear path to profit, so they slapped ads on it. Why does Meta want VR to work? Create the Meta-verse? We're back at why, what problem does it solve? Same with AI, what's the goal here, besides being an AI company?

dylan604 1y ago
> Create the Meta-verse? We're back at why, what problem does it solve? theZuck doesn't have to be around other people in the -verse. For him, that's a great solve
onlyrealcuzzo 1y ago
The goal is to manipulate your stock price. Meta's product is not Instagram or Facebook. It's Meta's stock.
999900000999 1y ago
Just a thought, but VR/AR is constantly recording video and audio. It wouldn't surprise me if at least some of that data is being piped back to Meta. Data that can latter be used by LLMs to train on. Even if this isn't enabled on consumer models, on the corporate side it can make sense. Say you're a risk adjuster for a factory. Walk around with your VR headset. In real time MetaOshaHelper can identify issues, you can tag them yourself. Then send the video back to your on prem LLM for data processing. New hires get a VR headset which can use this data for help on boarding. Or... Robots will use the data and replace human workers entirely.
- mrweasel 1y ago
  > In real time MetaOshaHelper can identify issues I sort of doubt that most business would want that. Sorry to latch on to one specific thing in an interesting comment. But just imagine having AI tracking in the workplace, e.g. OSHA violations, violations of building code and workplace regulations in general. You'd have shitty manufactures, builders, trucking companies, kitchens, warehouses and everything in between begging you to stop.
  - 999900000999 1y ago
    Does spell check make writing a book harder? Occasionally you're going to ignore things that get flagged, but I would love an AI to say oh by the way that machine over there isn't latched on correctly and can fall over if not corrected. It's cheaper than paying workers comp.
    - mrweasel 1y ago
      Sure, but have you see building inspectors on YouTube for instance? The amount of extra work would be insane and much harder to dispute in court.

dylan604 1y ago

> Create the Meta-verse? We're back at why, what problem does it solve? theZuck doesn't have to be around other people in the -verse. For him, that's a great solve

onlyrealcuzzo 1y ago

The goal is to manipulate your stock price. Meta's product is not Instagram or Facebook. It's Meta's stock.

999900000999 1y ago

Just a thought, but VR/AR is constantly recording video and audio. It wouldn't surprise me if at least some of that data is being piped back to Meta. Data that can latter be used by LLMs to train on. Even if this isn't enabled on consumer models, on the corporate side it can make sense. Say you're a risk adjuster for a factory. Walk around with your VR headset. In real time MetaOshaHelper can identify issues, you can tag them yourself. Then send the video back to your on prem LLM for data processing. New hires get a VR headset which can use this data for help on boarding. Or... Robots will use the data and replace human workers entirely.

mrweasel 1y ago
> In real time MetaOshaHelper can identify issues I sort of doubt that most business would want that. Sorry to latch on to one specific thing in an interesting comment. But just imagine having AI tracking in the workplace, e.g. OSHA violations, violations of building code and workplace regulations in general. You'd have shitty manufactures, builders, trucking companies, kitchens, warehouses and everything in between begging you to stop.
- 999900000999 1y ago
  Does spell check make writing a book harder? Occasionally you're going to ignore things that get flagged, but I would love an AI to say oh by the way that machine over there isn't latched on correctly and can fall over if not corrected. It's cheaper than paying workers comp.
  - mrweasel 1y ago
    Sure, but have you see building inspectors on YouTube for instance? The amount of extra work would be insane and much harder to dispute in court.