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I wondered that. But then huge revenue streams for Scale basically disappear immediately. Is it worth Meta spending all that money just to stop competitors us
by mattlondon 1y ago
I wondered that.
But then huge revenue streams for Scale basically disappear immediately.
Is it worth Meta spending all that money just to stop competitors using Scale? There are competitors who I am sure would be very eager to get the money from Google, OpenAI, Anthropic etc that was previously going to Scale. So Meta spends all that money for basically nothing because the competitors will just fill the gap if Scale is turned-down.
I am guessing they are just buying stuff to try to be more "vertically integrated" or whatever (remember that Facebook recently got caught pirating books etc).
- moralestapia 1y agoYeah, also the industry could come up with their own Scale if they were forced to. But probs. it just makes sense on paper, Scale's revenue will pay this for itself and what they could do is to give/keep the best training sets for Meta, for "free" now. Zuck's not an idiot. The Instagram and WhatsApp acquisitions were phenomenal in hindsight.
- varelse 1y ago[dead]
- koakuma-chan 1y ago> Yeah, also the industry could come up with their own Scale if they were forced to I worked at Outlier and it was such a garbage treatment
- zht 1y agois he not? what about the whole metaverse thing and renaming the whole company to meta?
- bornfreddy 1y agoWhat about it? Imagine buying Twitter and renaming it to "X".
- moralestapia 1y agoThe metaverse will happen, IMO. The tech is just not there, yet. Even if it turns out to be wasted money, which I doubt, he's still sitting on almost 2 trillion. Not an L on my book.
- consumer451 1y ago> The metaverse will happen, IMO. The tech is just not there, yet. This seems possible, and it just sounds so awful to me. Think about the changes to the human condition that arose from the smartphone. People at concerts and other events scrolling phones, parents missing their children growing up while scrolling their phones. Me, "watching" a movie, scrolling my phone. VR/AR makes all that sound like a walk in the park.
- richardw 1y ago“We went outside this weekend. Terrible. I wasn’t hot anymore, the smog was everywhere. House was tiny. No AI to help with conversations and people were unfriendly. I’m staying plugged in, where we can fly amongst the stars on unicorns. Some say it’s fake but I say life has been fake for a while.”
- corimaith 1y agoMeta has done great work on the underlying technology of the metaverse, but what they really need is a killer app. And I don't think Meta or really Silicon Valley types have the proper institutional ability or really cultural acumen to achieve it. We think back to Horizon Worlds that looked more like a amateur weekend asset flip than the product of a billion dollar conglomerate. If it does come, it will likely come from the gaming industry, building upon the ideas of former mmorpgs and "social" games like Pokemon Go. But recent string of AAA disasters should obviously tell you that building a good game is often orthogonal to the amount of funding or technical engineering. It's creativity, and artistic passion, and that's something that someone who spends their entire life in the real world optimizing their TC for is going to find hard to understand.
- ilteris 1y agoCan you explain 2 trillion
- lettergram 1y agoCould be they need a perpetual license to the data too… so they could potentially sue everyone.
- trhway 1y agoMeta buys 900 AI employees here at less than $20M/head. Pretty cheap these days. Any IP the company has is a bonus.
- dcsan 1y ago850 people doing data labelling?
- trhway 1y agoi don't think anybody is having data labelers as employees.
- mattlondon 1y agoNah - I think of Scale as "like Uber but for AI data". I.e. they match humans to AI companies wanting to do RLHF.