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When a person writes something that is obviously nonsensical it should be called out as such. This is especially so when the topic is about ongoing acts of war

When a person writes something that is obviously nonsensical it should be called out as such. This is especially so when the topic is about ongoing acts of war.

tomhow 1y ago
If it's an important topic, which it is, it's all the more important to convey the substance of your point, without the abusive barbs. Dropping the swipe "Please don’t act as if you don’t know that you are peddling nonsense" would have made all the difference. We can't know what people "know" when they write things on a discussion board.
- redczar 1y ago
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  - owebmaster 1y ago
    You can be wrong / right and you can be polite / rude those two are unrelated. Being right and rude (or worse) is not great for a discussion, especially on a topic like this one.
    - redczar 1y ago
      In general I agree. But not in this case. In the “polite” approach what happens is that obviously bad assertions are made and one politely engages but the starting point is such that you are engaged in an attempt to just get to a reasonable place. It’s sort like how combatting a lie is much more effort than spreading one. My comment above was not for the person who made. I don’t engage with such people. It was for the people who stumbled upon it. I want them to know that there are people who think the comment is ridiculously bad.
      - pvg 1y ago
        There's no "not in the case" on HN, though. People can figure out the quality of a comment themselves, perhaps helped along by a comment that disputes what the first comment says. But the idea you're doing everyone some service by trashing the place is misplaced, it's just not how things work.
        redczar 1y ago
        I disagree.
        pvg 1y ago
        You don’t have to agree, you just can’t comment like that on HN.
        redczar 1y ago
        [flagged]
        pvg 1y ago
        Nobody is interested in banning you, people are simply asking you not to shit in the place they use so that they and you can continue using it. Trying to present this shitting as some sort of principled martyrdom or, heaven help us, favour to the rest of us is silly, selfish and unconvincing. Just ease off on the shitting in the future, it's not like most everyone else has any trouble doing it.
        redczar 1y ago
        Martyrdom? I’m not important enough or self centered enough to have any feelings of martyrdom with regard to this site. I was just letting you know that I don’t agree with you and I’m not going to stop. As such the only option is for me to be banned. Pointing out this fact does not qualify as martyrdom.

When a person writes something that is obviously nonsensical it should be called out as such. This is especially so when the topic is about ongoing acts of war.

tomhow 1y ago

If it's an important topic, which it is, it's all the more important to convey the substance of your point, without the abusive barbs. Dropping the swipe "Please don’t act as if you don’t know that you are peddling nonsense" would have made all the difference. We can't know what people "know" when they write things on a discussion board.

redczar 1y ago
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- owebmaster 1y ago
  You can be wrong / right and you can be polite / rude those two are unrelated. Being right and rude (or worse) is not great for a discussion, especially on a topic like this one.
  - redczar 1y ago
    In general I agree. But not in this case. In the “polite” approach what happens is that obviously bad assertions are made and one politely engages but the starting point is such that you are engaged in an attempt to just get to a reasonable place. It’s sort like how combatting a lie is much more effort than spreading one. My comment above was not for the person who made. I don’t engage with such people. It was for the people who stumbled upon it. I want them to know that there are people who think the comment is ridiculously bad.
    - pvg 1y ago
      There's no "not in the case" on HN, though. People can figure out the quality of a comment themselves, perhaps helped along by a comment that disputes what the first comment says. But the idea you're doing everyone some service by trashing the place is misplaced, it's just not how things work.
      - redczar 1y ago
        I disagree.
        pvg 1y ago
        You don’t have to agree, you just can’t comment like that on HN.
        redczar 1y ago
        [flagged]
        pvg 1y ago
        Nobody is interested in banning you, people are simply asking you not to shit in the place they use so that they and you can continue using it. Trying to present this shitting as some sort of principled martyrdom or, heaven help us, favour to the rest of us is silly, selfish and unconvincing. Just ease off on the shitting in the future, it's not like most everyone else has any trouble doing it.
        redczar 1y ago
        Martyrdom? I’m not important enough or self centered enough to have any feelings of martyrdom with regard to this site. I was just letting you know that I don’t agree with you and I’m not going to stop. As such the only option is for me to be banned. Pointing out this fact does not qualify as martyrdom.