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I hope the US manages to stays out of this one. Hopefully Iran does a little retaliation and then goes back to their covert proxy war rather than it escalating

I hope the US manages to stays out of this one. Hopefully Iran does a little retaliation and then goes back to their covert proxy war rather than it escalating to open warfare. I honestly don't even know if either Iran or Israel could sustain open warfare given the distances involved without dragging in other forces to help. I would rather those forces not be ours.

ivape 1y ago
Stay out of what? The Trump admin’s foreign policy is to allow Netanyahu to operate autonomously. The same they offer ICE. In terms of American foreign policy interest it’s basically making us more vulnerable. In so many words, Netanyahu might get us all killed. Trump will not decry anything Netanyahu does, so it’s 4 years of war and you better believe it. Putin also has no incentive to give Trump a peace deal. Provide enough war zone cover and Taiwan will just happen, all of a sudden. Negotiate all three peace deals, please, I’d love to see it. Trump is out of his element here, he’ll be leaving a world at war. When you a let a pot of boiling water keep boiling on the lowest heat, you may not see all the boiling bubbles, but I assure you it’s boiling. It’s a boiling world, and without certain advents like AI, we’d literally have no positive news (think that through for a second). Without the miracle of AI, all we’d have is the most depressing world situation you could imagine.
- tuyguntn 1y ago
  > The Trump admin’s foreign policy is to allow Netanyahu to operate autonomously. The same they offer ICE. to be honest, by now, it feels like the opposite, Netanyahu is allowing Trump admin to operate autonomously when it comes to internal affairs, for foreign policy Netanyahu is dictating the US foreign policy. Go check Twitter, for some reason 90% of congress members immediately started praying for Israel after Israel's attack, as if they were handed over the message
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- franktankbank 1y ago
  I don't know. I find AI to be generally pretty depressing too.
- belter 1y ago
  > The Trump admin’s foreign policy is to allow Netanyahu to operate autonomously. Just say it the way it is because it's clear. US policy is run from Tel Aviv. Trump chickens out with Putin, China, and now Netanyahu....
  - franktankbank 1y ago
    No US war, No US war, No US war. Seems pretty consistent so far.
TiredOfLife 1y ago
Hopefully Iran stops their stupid proxy wars. Stops supplying Russia with drones and rockets. Stops executing thousands of people every year.
- _DeadFred_ 1y ago
  It says a lot about the discussion here that the above negative comments about the proxy nature of Israel/The USA and war are upvoted while this comment about...proxies and war is downvoted. Shows a lack a seriousness/depth of thought but instead it's all just talking points and point scoring.
- thomassmith65 1y ago
  Not to nitpick, but Iran doesn't execute "thousands" of people every year. They execute between 500 and 1000 a year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran
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- DAGdug 1y ago
  Is there a “hopefully Israel ..” version of this or is all the skepticism targeted at Islamic countries, and not USA’s “greatest ally”?
- DAGdug 1y ago
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suraci 1y ago
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- dang 1y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly posting flamewar comments and ignoring our requests to stop. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. (This is not a comment about the news, just about accounts that break the site guidelines.) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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guelo 1y ago
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- mupuff1234 1y ago
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    - mkfs 1y ago
      > Imagine a world where the USA and Israel had no nukes. The US and Russia were committed to working towards that world, at least back in the 80s.
    - mupuff1234 1y ago
      > There are much better methods to prevent Iran from getting nukes. And what if those methods don't work? Obviously I would prefer all this to be resolved in a diplomatic way a decade ago, but in some cases military action will be the only way beyond a certain point.
      - runarberg 1y ago
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        amendegree 1y ago
        > “It worked kinda well” So comforting, even you, an avowed Zionist hater (in your own words), (and imo terrorist apologist) couldn’t lie enough to claim that they were actually effective. Would you get on a plane that “worked kinda well”. Would you trust a heart surgeon who said he was “kinda ok”. Iran has continuously called for the total destruction and death of all Jews and all of western civilization for the last 40+ years as a religious mandate demanded by their god, what makes you think they would ever stop pursuing that?

ivape 1y ago

Stay out of what? The Trump admin’s foreign policy is to allow Netanyahu to operate autonomously. The same they offer ICE. In terms of American foreign policy interest it’s basically making us more vulnerable. In so many words, Netanyahu might get us all killed. Trump will not decry anything Netanyahu does, so it’s 4 years of war and you better believe it. Putin also has no incentive to give Trump a peace deal. Provide enough war zone cover and Taiwan will just happen, all of a sudden. Negotiate all three peace deals, please, I’d love to see it. Trump is out of his element here, he’ll be leaving a world at war. When you a let a pot of boiling water keep boiling on the lowest heat, you may not see all the boiling bubbles, but I assure you it’s boiling. It’s a boiling world, and without certain advents like AI, we’d literally have no positive news (think that through for a second). Without the miracle of AI, all we’d have is the most depressing world situation you could imagine.

tuyguntn 1y ago
> The Trump admin’s foreign policy is to allow Netanyahu to operate autonomously. The same they offer ICE. to be honest, by now, it feels like the opposite, Netanyahu is allowing Trump admin to operate autonomously when it comes to internal affairs, for foreign policy Netanyahu is dictating the US foreign policy. Go check Twitter, for some reason 90% of congress members immediately started praying for Israel after Israel's attack, as if they were handed over the message
- lapcat 1y ago
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franktankbank 1y ago
I don't know. I find AI to be generally pretty depressing too.
belter 1y ago
> The Trump admin’s foreign policy is to allow Netanyahu to operate autonomously. Just say it the way it is because it's clear. US policy is run from Tel Aviv. Trump chickens out with Putin, China, and now Netanyahu....
- franktankbank 1y ago
  No US war, No US war, No US war. Seems pretty consistent so far.

TiredOfLife 1y ago

Hopefully Iran stops their stupid proxy wars. Stops supplying Russia with drones and rockets. Stops executing thousands of people every year.

_DeadFred_ 1y ago
It says a lot about the discussion here that the above negative comments about the proxy nature of Israel/The USA and war are upvoted while this comment about...proxies and war is downvoted. Shows a lack a seriousness/depth of thought but instead it's all just talking points and point scoring.
thomassmith65 1y ago
Not to nitpick, but Iran doesn't execute "thousands" of people every year. They execute between 500 and 1000 a year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran
- TiredOfLife 1y ago
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DAGdug 1y ago
Is there a “hopefully Israel ..” version of this or is all the skepticism targeted at Islamic countries, and not USA’s “greatest ally”?
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suraci 1y ago

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dang 1y ago
We've banned this account for repeatedly posting flamewar comments and ignoring our requests to stop. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. (This is not a comment about the news, just about accounts that break the site guidelines.) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- suracii 1y ago
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guelo 1y ago

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mupuff1234 1y ago
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- runarberg 1y ago
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  - mkfs 1y ago
    > Imagine a world where the USA and Israel had no nukes. The US and Russia were committed to working towards that world, at least back in the 80s.
  - mupuff1234 1y ago
    > There are much better methods to prevent Iran from getting nukes. And what if those methods don't work? Obviously I would prefer all this to be resolved in a diplomatic way a decade ago, but in some cases military action will be the only way beyond a certain point.
    - runarberg 1y ago
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      - amendegree 1y ago
        > “It worked kinda well” So comforting, even you, an avowed Zionist hater (in your own words), (and imo terrorist apologist) couldn’t lie enough to claim that they were actually effective. Would you get on a plane that “worked kinda well”. Would you trust a heart surgeon who said he was “kinda ok”. Iran has continuously called for the total destruction and death of all Jews and all of western civilization for the last 40+ years as a religious mandate demanded by their god, what makes you think they would ever stop pursuing that?