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You do understand that an Iranian can hate the regime in their country and at the same time, have zero love or respect for Israel and its government's (at least

You do understand that an Iranian can hate the regime in their country and at the same time, have zero love or respect for Israel and its government's (at least currently) insane tendencies and bullying tactics. I say that as someone who previously always defended Israel's responses to its neighbors and the country's better aspects. I'm hard pressed to do the same after months of that raving imbecile Netanyahu's grotesque policy of annihilation in Gaza. I just don't know how to call it anything else. Even if he has a legitimate mandate to destroy Hamas (no flower-power, peace-loving band of idealists themselves by the way) starving children to death through blockades has absolutely no justification.

mupuff1234 1y ago
Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? I think that's just expected human psyche. Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that.
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  >Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? Yes, you would likely cheer anything that tumbles the regime that caused your miseries. What you likely wouldn't cheer however, are missile and other attacks by an external power against places where civilians are killed. Regardless of how much you hate your country's regime, seeing bombs explode in the country's urban areas will likely make you think of some possible family member of yours being a victim of those bombs. This viscerally goes beyond hatred for your regime. >Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that. What? This comparison is completely off base. If North Korea attacked Russia, Ukrainians could definitely cheer, but Russians, even those who hate Putin, probably wouldn't. Our debate above has nothing to do with citizens of a third, enemy country's feelings about the regime that has invaded them being attacked by someone.
- keybored 1y ago
  > Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Have any data to back that up?

mupuff1234 1y ago

Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? I think that's just expected human psyche. Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that.

southernplaces7 1y ago
>Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? Yes, you would likely cheer anything that tumbles the regime that caused your miseries. What you likely wouldn't cheer however, are missile and other attacks by an external power against places where civilians are killed. Regardless of how much you hate your country's regime, seeing bombs explode in the country's urban areas will likely make you think of some possible family member of yours being a victim of those bombs. This viscerally goes beyond hatred for your regime. >Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that. What? This comparison is completely off base. If North Korea attacked Russia, Ukrainians could definitely cheer, but Russians, even those who hate Putin, probably wouldn't. Our debate above has nothing to do with citizens of a third, enemy country's feelings about the regime that has invaded them being attacked by someone.
keybored 1y ago
> Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Have any data to back that up?