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Not after Israel conducts this attack. No one in Iran supports Israel, young or old.

by vFunct 1y ago

thomassmith65 1y ago
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mupuff1234 1y ago
That's a pretty strong claim given the amount of Iranians in exile who hate the Iranian regime. Have any data to back that up?
- southernplaces7 1y ago
  You do understand that an Iranian can hate the regime in their country and at the same time, have zero love or respect for Israel and its government's (at least currently) insane tendencies and bullying tactics. I say that as someone who previously always defended Israel's responses to its neighbors and the country's better aspects. I'm hard pressed to do the same after months of that raving imbecile Netanyahu's grotesque policy of annihilation in Gaza. I just don't know how to call it anything else. Even if he has a legitimate mandate to destroy Hamas (no flower-power, peace-loving band of idealists themselves by the way) starving children to death through blockades has absolutely no justification.
  - mupuff1234 1y ago
    Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? I think that's just expected human psyche. Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that.
    - southernplaces7 1y ago
      >Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? Yes, you would likely cheer anything that tumbles the regime that caused your miseries. What you likely wouldn't cheer however, are missile and other attacks by an external power against places where civilians are killed. Regardless of how much you hate your country's regime, seeing bombs explode in the country's urban areas will likely make you think of some possible family member of yours being a victim of those bombs. This viscerally goes beyond hatred for your regime. >Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that. What? This comparison is completely off base. If North Korea attacked Russia, Ukrainians could definitely cheer, but Russians, even those who hate Putin, probably wouldn't. Our debate above has nothing to do with citizens of a third, enemy country's feelings about the regime that has invaded them being attacked by someone.
    - keybored 1y ago
      > Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Have any data to back that up?
- vFunct 1y ago
  The attacks just occurred a few hours ago. But otherwise you can follow all sorts of Iranian ticktokers and they’ll give you the rundown. The only Iranians that support Israel are exiled Pahlavists, like the ones around LA. No one inside Iran supports Israel.
  - thomassmith65 1y ago
    Well, no one in Iran publicly supports Israel, obviously.
    - vFunct 1y ago
      And you can confirm they don't privately support Israel either through social media. There's a lot of hopium among Zionists that they have widespread support, but really, they're as hated worldwide as the Nazis were. Japan in particular dropped from massively pro-Israel to massively anti-Israel. And this was from a poll last year. It's only gone more anti-israel since then. I would implore you to understand how social media influences people.
      - thomassmith65 1y ago
        • And you can confirm they don't privately support Israel either through social media. • I would implore you to understand how social media influences people. That seems like a contradiction, but I think this thread has run its course. Nobody needs to read us debating which of us is the more media-literate and level-headed.
      - mupuff1234 1y ago
        You should visit r/newiran
- owebmaster 1y ago
  All US Americans I've met living in Rio absolutely hates the current US regime.
dzhiurgis 1y ago
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- 1oooqooq 1y ago
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- thomassmith65 1y ago
  Iranians value tolerance. The country has a unique history involving persians, jews and other groups. https://tehrantimes.com/news/484990/Cultural-diversity-religions-coexistence-hallmarks-of-Iran https://tehrantimes.com/news/484990/Cultural-diversity-relig...

Not after Israel conducts this attack. No one in Iran supports Israel, young or old.

by vFunct 1y ago

Not after Israel conducts this attack. No one in Iran supports Israel, young or old.

thomassmith65 1y ago

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mupuff1234 1y ago

That's a pretty strong claim given the amount of Iranians in exile who hate the Iranian regime. Have any data to back that up?

southernplaces7 1y ago
You do understand that an Iranian can hate the regime in their country and at the same time, have zero love or respect for Israel and its government's (at least currently) insane tendencies and bullying tactics. I say that as someone who previously always defended Israel's responses to its neighbors and the country's better aspects. I'm hard pressed to do the same after months of that raving imbecile Netanyahu's grotesque policy of annihilation in Gaza. I just don't know how to call it anything else. Even if he has a legitimate mandate to destroy Hamas (no flower-power, peace-loving band of idealists themselves by the way) starving children to death through blockades has absolutely no justification.
- mupuff1234 1y ago
  Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? I think that's just expected human psyche. Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that.
  - southernplaces7 1y ago
    >Just put yourself in their shoes - you've been exiled from your country, family and friends, would you not cheer on anyone attacking the regime that caused that? Yes, you would likely cheer anything that tumbles the regime that caused your miseries. What you likely wouldn't cheer however, are missile and other attacks by an external power against places where civilians are killed. Regardless of how much you hate your country's regime, seeing bombs explode in the country's urban areas will likely make you think of some possible family member of yours being a victim of those bombs. This viscerally goes beyond hatred for your regime. >Just like if, lets say, North Korea suddenly attacked Russia, I'm pretty sure Ukrainians would cheer for that. What? This comparison is completely off base. If North Korea attacked Russia, Ukrainians could definitely cheer, but Russians, even those who hate Putin, probably wouldn't. Our debate above has nothing to do with citizens of a third, enemy country's feelings about the regime that has invaded them being attacked by someone.
  - keybored 1y ago
    > Yeah I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure the hatred of the Iranian regime far supersedes the feelings towards Israel. Have any data to back that up?
vFunct 1y ago
The attacks just occurred a few hours ago. But otherwise you can follow all sorts of Iranian ticktokers and they’ll give you the rundown. The only Iranians that support Israel are exiled Pahlavists, like the ones around LA. No one inside Iran supports Israel.
- thomassmith65 1y ago
  Well, no one in Iran publicly supports Israel, obviously.
  - vFunct 1y ago
    And you can confirm they don't privately support Israel either through social media. There's a lot of hopium among Zionists that they have widespread support, but really, they're as hated worldwide as the Nazis were. Japan in particular dropped from massively pro-Israel to massively anti-Israel. And this was from a poll last year. It's only gone more anti-israel since then. I would implore you to understand how social media influences people.
    - thomassmith65 1y ago
      • And you can confirm they don't privately support Israel either through social media. • I would implore you to understand how social media influences people. That seems like a contradiction, but I think this thread has run its course. Nobody needs to read us debating which of us is the more media-literate and level-headed.
    - mupuff1234 1y ago
      You should visit r/newiran
owebmaster 1y ago
All US Americans I've met living in Rio absolutely hates the current US regime.

dzhiurgis 1y ago

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1oooqooq 1y ago
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thomassmith65 1y ago
Iranians value tolerance. The country has a unique history involving persians, jews and other groups. https://tehrantimes.com/news/484990/Cultural-diversity-religions-coexistence-hallmarks-of-Iran https://tehrantimes.com/news/484990/Cultural-diversity-relig...