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> there hasn't been a single major accident like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airline

> there hasn't been a single major accident like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191 > American Airlines Flight 191 crashed shortly after lifting off the runway at Chicago O'Hare Airport [...] The accident was attributed to improper maintenance procedures. The crash resulted in the deaths of all 271 passengers and crew on board, as well as two people on the ground. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587 > American Airlines Flight 587 crashed in the Belle Harbor neighborhood of Queens, New York, just after departing John F. Kennedy International Airport bound for Las Américas International Airport, Santo Domingo. The first officer's overuse of the rudder in response to wake turbulence from a Japan Airlines 747 was cited as cause. All 260 people on board, as well as five people on the ground, died from the crash I'm going to downvote you now.

decimalenough 1y ago
The first was in 1979, back when planes crashed left and right everywhere. The second, in 2001, remains the last major accident in the US.
impulser_ 1y ago
I'm not talking about accidents from 40 and 20 years ago. I'm talking about the recent 737 accidents both this one and the previous Max crashes.
- amiga386 1y ago
  What you're doing is running your mouth and implying there's some sort of magic that makes the USA -- probably the country you live in -- special. All other countries must obviously be inferior, incompetent, in comparison to the glorious USA. That's not how planes work, that's not how aviation safety is advanced. There have been hundreds of accidents and there's no value in cherry-picking specific timeframes (while not actually stating you were cherry-picking until challenged on it), nor specific categories of accident (fatal accidents with hull loss only). This is not the right way to view it: https://www.statista.com/statistics/262867/fatal-civil-airliner-accidents-since-1945-by-country-and-region/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/262867/fatal-civil-airli... THIS is the right way to view it: https://www.panish.law/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/PSBR-Aviation-Crash-Statistics-1-1.jpg https://www.panish.law/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/PSBR-Aviat... So is this: https://accidentstats.airbus.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/05.2_YearlyHullLossAccidentsRate-2025.png https://accidentstats.airbus.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/... And this (page 8): https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/company/about_bca/pdf/statsum.pdf https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/compa... (and if you want to apportion geographic blame - for Boeing airframes only - check out pages 17-24) When there are accidents, the right thing to do is to analyse how it happened, come up with findings that might reduce the likelyhood of it happening again, or eliminate it, and push all people in aviation to adopt those findings - whether it be manufacturer, ATC, airline, or pilot, and regardless of country.

decimalenough 1y ago

The first was in 1979, back when planes crashed left and right everywhere. The second, in 2001, remains the last major accident in the US.

impulser_ 1y ago

I'm not talking about accidents from 40 and 20 years ago. I'm talking about the recent 737 accidents both this one and the previous Max crashes.

amiga386 1y ago
What you're doing is running your mouth and implying there's some sort of magic that makes the USA -- probably the country you live in -- special. All other countries must obviously be inferior, incompetent, in comparison to the glorious USA. That's not how planes work, that's not how aviation safety is advanced. There have been hundreds of accidents and there's no value in cherry-picking specific timeframes (while not actually stating you were cherry-picking until challenged on it), nor specific categories of accident (fatal accidents with hull loss only). This is not the right way to view it: https://www.statista.com/statistics/262867/fatal-civil-airliner-accidents-since-1945-by-country-and-region/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/262867/fatal-civil-airli... THIS is the right way to view it: https://www.panish.law/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/PSBR-Aviation-Crash-Statistics-1-1.jpg https://www.panish.law/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/PSBR-Aviat... So is this: https://accidentstats.airbus.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/05.2_YearlyHullLossAccidentsRate-2025.png https://accidentstats.airbus.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/... And this (page 8): https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/company/about_bca/pdf/statsum.pdf https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/compa... (and if you want to apportion geographic blame - for Boeing airframes only - check out pages 17-24) When there are accidents, the right thing to do is to analyse how it happened, come up with findings that might reduce the likelyhood of it happening again, or eliminate it, and push all people in aviation to adopt those findings - whether it be manufacturer, ATC, airline, or pilot, and regardless of country.