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I have no problem with legal immigration - people who have worked hard to become citizens via legal channels, and who love our country. They wouldn't dream of

by xedrac 1y ago

I have no problem with legal immigration - people who have worked hard to become citizens via legal channels, and who love our country. They wouldn't dream of rioting or committing violence, all while waving another country's flag. I have a huge problem with what happened over the last 4 years.

davidw 1y ago
So you're out there protesting that they're deporting Afghans who are here legally, who served alongside our military and would likely be killed if they were sent home, right? https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2025/06/12/afghani-who-aided-u-s-army-detained-by-ice-in-san-diego-immigration-court/ https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2025/06/12/afghani-who-...
- xedrac 1y ago
  If he was a citizen, then I would definitely have a problem with it. The problem I see is that asylum claims have been so abused recently that they have become an entitlement rather than an exceptional case. I don't know the specifics of this guy, but a judge ruled in his case to not keep him here. Maybe there's a good reason for that, or maybe the judge is sick of what has transpired over the last 4 years and is over compensating for it. I don't know, but I know things can't continue the way the were going during Biden's term.
  - davidw 1y ago
    So first you're for legal immigration, and then well, no, not like that. "Do things the proper way" is just a facade for the xenophobia. The guy worked with the US in Afghanistan. Do you not think he has a real case here? He'll get killed if they send him back.
    - xedrac 1y ago
      On the surface, yes, it looks like he has a strong case for asylum. But the judge denied it for some reason, which I assume is based on something more than personal feelings. I am not familiar enough with him or his case to judge for myself, and I am certainly not going to blindly accept what the news says, as they have proven to be almost completely void of unbiased information.
ethbr1 1y ago
The problem with supporting legal immigration only is that Congress has been unable to pass common sense immigration reform over the past decades, because there's not enough political backbone. (And also the Republican Party has made it increasingly toxic) Illegal immigration = the difference between legal immigration supply and demand for immigration (both external and domestic) And the rioting / nativist arguments are political theater to score points. It's a fact that most illegal immigrants don't commit crimes or riot, in the same way that most people in general don't. But distorting frequency and total count has long been a popular pathos argument. Similarly, enculturation and assimilation is a broader topic than a flag. And more over, the US explicitly and unambiguously grants freedom of expression as a right (all persons in America, not just citizens). So saying "I hate this country; I support ____" is and has always been an option as an American.

by xedrac 1y ago

davidw 1y ago

So you're out there protesting that they're deporting Afghans who are here legally, who served alongside our military and would likely be killed if they were sent home, right? https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2025/06/12/afghani-who-aided-u-s-army-detained-by-ice-in-san-diego-immigration-court/ https://timesofsandiego.com/military/2025/06/12/afghani-who-...

xedrac 1y ago
If he was a citizen, then I would definitely have a problem with it. The problem I see is that asylum claims have been so abused recently that they have become an entitlement rather than an exceptional case. I don't know the specifics of this guy, but a judge ruled in his case to not keep him here. Maybe there's a good reason for that, or maybe the judge is sick of what has transpired over the last 4 years and is over compensating for it. I don't know, but I know things can't continue the way the were going during Biden's term.
- davidw 1y ago
  So first you're for legal immigration, and then well, no, not like that. "Do things the proper way" is just a facade for the xenophobia. The guy worked with the US in Afghanistan. Do you not think he has a real case here? He'll get killed if they send him back.
  - xedrac 1y ago
    On the surface, yes, it looks like he has a strong case for asylum. But the judge denied it for some reason, which I assume is based on something more than personal feelings. I am not familiar enough with him or his case to judge for myself, and I am certainly not going to blindly accept what the news says, as they have proven to be almost completely void of unbiased information.

ethbr1 1y ago

The problem with supporting legal immigration only is that Congress has been unable to pass common sense immigration reform over the past decades, because there's not enough political backbone. (And also the Republican Party has made it increasingly toxic) Illegal immigration = the difference between legal immigration supply and demand for immigration (both external and domestic) And the rioting / nativist arguments are political theater to score points. It's a fact that most illegal immigrants don't commit crimes or riot, in the same way that most people in general don't. But distorting frequency and total count has long been a popular pathos argument. Similarly, enculturation and assimilation is a broader topic than a flag. And more over, the US explicitly and unambiguously grants freedom of expression as a right (all persons in America, not just citizens). So saying "I hate this country; I support ____" is and has always been an option as an American.