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I found o3 pro to need a paradigm shift, where the latency makes it impossible to use in anything but in async manner. You have a broad question, likely somewh
by serjester 1y ago
I found o3 pro to need a paradigm shift, where the latency makes it impossible to use in anything but in async manner.
You have a broad question, likely somewhat vague, and you pass it off to o3 with a ton of context. Then maybe 20 minutes later, you're going to have a decently good answer. Definitely stronger than any other models - it genuinely has taste.
Yet, the scary thing here is that increasingly I'm starting to feel like the bottleneck. A human can only think about so many tasks in parallel and it seems like my contributions are getting less and less important with every model upgrade.
Every now and then I question why I'm paying $200 for the max plan, but then something like this comes out and makes it a no brainer.
- dist-epoch 1y agoDo the coherent extrapolated volition thing: "o3-pro, please reinterpret the prompt and do what I would have actually requested instead if I was 50 IQ points smarter."
- atleastoptimal 1y agoThis is gonna keep happening with every AI advance until humans are an absolute bottleneck in every domain. May take a bit of time for some professions, but the writing is on the wall. This will be the greatest shift in human history, and I think a lot of people will have trouble grappling with it because its not fun to think about being made irrelevant. The only thing that will slow AI down is massive universal international regulation. Human intelligence really isn’t the be all end all to intelligence in general, it’s just a stepping stone. I feel many on this site don’t want to accept this because their intelligence has been such a valuable tool and source of personal pride/identity for them for so long.
- timhigins 1y ago> unilateral international regulation is an oxymoron/contradictory
- atleastoptimal 1y agosorry I meant "universal" or "omnilateral"
- layer8 1y agoDid you mean global regulation?
- atleastoptimal 1y agoyeah
- matthewkayin 1y agoWhat is all of this for if the result is that human beings are "made irrelevant"? If these LLMs truly become as game changing as so many say they will be, then can we agree that it's time to stop thinking that a person's worth equals their economic output?
- __MatrixMan__ 1y agoIt is definitely past time to start thinking outside of the economy. Although must we deal in "worth" at all at that point? If two people have conflicting visions, it shouldn't be the one who is "worth" more that gets their way, it should be the one whose vision is most appealing to the rest of us.
- intended 1y agoNo, I disagree, and for everyone who bemoans capitalism or the power of money, its important to understand the foundational arguments from which economics is born. Wants are infinite, and resources limited. Economics is the objective methods to order a system to achieve subjective ends. For better or worse, money is a medium of exchange and signal of what people are willing to allocate for their needs. Unless you create economic markets, information markets, and political systems that are built to handle the forces being harnessed by society, you have failure states. In other words, taxes need to bleed of wealth, to ensure that it cannot create advantage in other fields (media, politics), breaking the even playing field in those other economies.
- diggan 1y ago> I found o3 pro to need a paradigm shift, where the latency makes it impossible to use in anything but in async manner. Just like o1 Pro, was the same way. Took some minutes at least to get an answer, so only threw at it what others couldn't solve. o1 Pro is AFAIK the best model for solving things others can't. I kind of feel like you were paying $200/month before but wasn't using O1 Pro at that point, you were kind of missing out :P Remains to be seen if O3 Pro is better, still evaluating it myself, but definitely true that it shouldn't be used in the same way as faster models.
- graeme 1y agoInteresting. Are you seeing situations where O1 Pro is notably better than O3 Pro?
- diggan 1y agoKind of sucks they removed o1 Pro from the UI, so can't do side-by-side comparisons, but my experience so far is that they're more or less equal, seems to be a bit faster if nothing else. But personally I'm not seeing a huge difference between o3 Pro and o1 Pro, but also haven't used it more than a few times still. I have some examples that o1 Pro wasn't able to solve before, should probably give those a try with o3 Pro but haven't had the time yet :/
- beering 1y agoshould still be in the API for side-by-side comparison, but I’ve never tried the -pro models in the API.