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Trump admin is just so selfish and parasitic. How do they not understand that science, research, and innovation are what drive the economy they are trying to ro

Trump admin is just so selfish and parasitic. How do they not understand that science, research, and innovation are what drive the economy they are trying to rob? Truly evil and incompetent.

duxup 1y ago
I recall a quote from Trump about environmental issues was something to the effect of "I'll be dead by then." It fits his approach to everything.
- retroam 1y ago
  Exactly this…it is individualism to the extreme. I don’t think they believe that cutting funding is in the best interest of the collective. But their activists want this so they will do it. It is hard in politics to link cause and effect so the nation as a whole won’t learn from this. I am really heartbroken about all of this. It is possible to reform without burning everything down.
tokai 1y ago
If you can extract more while harming everyone its an over all win for these types.
fzeroracer 1y ago
One of the big problems of having a government ran by an oligarchic gerontocracy is that none of the people in charge are going to care about long term effects because they'll be dead before it affects them. So they maximize short term value extraction and destruction. It's not strictly a far right issue either, the dems are feckless and useless for similar reasons being that any sort of long term consequences does not matter to them.
- Braxton1980 1y ago
  Are both sides equally bad?
- leptons 1y ago
  > the dems are feckless and useless for similar reasons being that any sort of long term consequences does not matter to them. Please elaborate on this.
  - Loughla 1y ago
    Old. They're old. Gerontocracy means old people. Dems, republicans, both are old. The average age for republicans and democrats in the house is 57 or so. The average in the senate is 62(r) and 65(d). While 57 isn't ancient, it's also not young enough to give a shit about 2070. 62 and 65 year olds certainly don't care about a date so far in the future that their kids will be dead.
    - Braxton1980 1y ago
      Ok. They are old. What's the evidence they don't care?
    - leptons 1y ago
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      - Loughla 1y ago
        I literally didn't say any of that. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying they're all old. Their incentives are wildly different than mine because they're older than I am.
        leptons 1y ago
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      - dang 1y ago
        Breaking the site guidelines like this is not cool and will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong another commenter is or you feel they are. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. You unfortunately have been in the habit of breaking them. Edit: we've had to ask you this a lot: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42065061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42065061 (Nov 2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41684566 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41684566 (Sept 2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36870132 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36870132 (July 2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25182199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25182199 (Nov 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25146606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25146606 (Nov 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24483757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24483757 (Sept 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24475231 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24475231 (Sept 2020)
rtkwe 1y ago
I'm not sure they care. Research etc goes against a lot of their ideological stances from climate policy to gender to economics (eg: there's barely a trickle down the cups at the top are bottomless) so they're just destroying the institutions that oppose them so they can make more money and retreat to their redoubts or just be dead by the time the repercussions of things like climate change become unignorable.
- pstuart 1y ago
  Not only do they not care, they actually relish destroying anything they consider to be "woke", like science. It's unfortunate, but modern American conservatism is now defined by hating everything that liberals love. This is a pity, because there should be a balance between "progress" and "government restraint" -- and that is no longer possible.
  - mistrial9 1y ago
    this point of view is so utterly lacking self-critical thought about "extreme social views, we demand you accept it or you are haters" .. its just a thought-blocker and dead-end. Endless polarization.
    - hedora 1y ago
      Recent polls of Trump supporter show that they expect Trump’s policies to hurt them personally, but they support the policies anyway because they think they will hurt liberals more. It is difficult to reconcile that viewpoint with any path to a functioning democracy.
      - Whoppertime 1y ago
        At least with tariffs you can understand there will be short term economic pain for presumed long term economic gain Polling of Biden voters seem to suggest they didn't expect the 20% inflation that happened between Biden entering office and Biden leaving office. They didn't think it would hurt Republicans more, they just had experts denying that anything was happening, like the head of the Fed saying inflation was transitory. That situation impedes on the function of democracy in a different way
dyauspitr 1y ago
Truly Capital Planet tier villains.

Trump admin is just so selfish and parasitic. How do they not understand that science, research, and innovation are what drive the economy they are trying to rob? Truly evil and incompetent.

duxup 1y ago

I recall a quote from Trump about environmental issues was something to the effect of "I'll be dead by then." It fits his approach to everything.

retroam 1y ago
Exactly this…it is individualism to the extreme. I don’t think they believe that cutting funding is in the best interest of the collective. But their activists want this so they will do it. It is hard in politics to link cause and effect so the nation as a whole won’t learn from this. I am really heartbroken about all of this. It is possible to reform without burning everything down.

tokai 1y ago

If you can extract more while harming everyone its an over all win for these types.

fzeroracer 1y ago

One of the big problems of having a government ran by an oligarchic gerontocracy is that none of the people in charge are going to care about long term effects because they'll be dead before it affects them. So they maximize short term value extraction and destruction. It's not strictly a far right issue either, the dems are feckless and useless for similar reasons being that any sort of long term consequences does not matter to them.

Braxton1980 1y ago
Are both sides equally bad?
leptons 1y ago
> the dems are feckless and useless for similar reasons being that any sort of long term consequences does not matter to them. Please elaborate on this.
- Loughla 1y ago
  Old. They're old. Gerontocracy means old people. Dems, republicans, both are old. The average age for republicans and democrats in the house is 57 or so. The average in the senate is 62(r) and 65(d). While 57 isn't ancient, it's also not young enough to give a shit about 2070. 62 and 65 year olds certainly don't care about a date so far in the future that their kids will be dead.
  - Braxton1980 1y ago
    Ok. They are old. What's the evidence they don't care?
  - leptons 1y ago
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    - Loughla 1y ago
      I literally didn't say any of that. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying they're all old. Their incentives are wildly different than mine because they're older than I am.
      - leptons 1y ago
        [flagged]
    - dang 1y ago
      Breaking the site guidelines like this is not cool and will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong another commenter is or you feel they are. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. You unfortunately have been in the habit of breaking them. Edit: we've had to ask you this a lot: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42065061 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42065061 (Nov 2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41684566 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41684566 (Sept 2024) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36870132 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36870132 (July 2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25182199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25182199 (Nov 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25146606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25146606 (Nov 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24483757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24483757 (Sept 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24475231 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24475231 (Sept 2020)

rtkwe 1y ago

I'm not sure they care. Research etc goes against a lot of their ideological stances from climate policy to gender to economics (eg: there's barely a trickle down the cups at the top are bottomless) so they're just destroying the institutions that oppose them so they can make more money and retreat to their redoubts or just be dead by the time the repercussions of things like climate change become unignorable.

pstuart 1y ago
Not only do they not care, they actually relish destroying anything they consider to be "woke", like science. It's unfortunate, but modern American conservatism is now defined by hating everything that liberals love. This is a pity, because there should be a balance between "progress" and "government restraint" -- and that is no longer possible.
- mistrial9 1y ago
  this point of view is so utterly lacking self-critical thought about "extreme social views, we demand you accept it or you are haters" .. its just a thought-blocker and dead-end. Endless polarization.
  - hedora 1y ago
    Recent polls of Trump supporter show that they expect Trump’s policies to hurt them personally, but they support the policies anyway because they think they will hurt liberals more. It is difficult to reconcile that viewpoint with any path to a functioning democracy.
    - Whoppertime 1y ago
      At least with tariffs you can understand there will be short term economic pain for presumed long term economic gain Polling of Biden voters seem to suggest they didn't expect the 20% inflation that happened between Biden entering office and Biden leaving office. They didn't think it would hurt Republicans more, they just had experts denying that anything was happening, like the head of the Fed saying inflation was transitory. That situation impedes on the function of democracy in a different way

dyauspitr 1y ago

Truly Capital Planet tier villains.