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Seedance 1.0
- silverlight 1y agoIs this available somewhere to use?
- ivape 1y agoThis is obviously going straight to TikTok. The big issue is it's going to open the flood gates on their own platform. Anyway, if everyone wants to be a content creator, why not charge them for the privilege of that desire? A content creator will forever need AI-generated something. So now we move from "you get to post your content for free" over to "you get to now pay us through this AI-gateway to post your content".
- Maxious 1y ago> Seedance 1.0 will be integrated into multiple platforms in June 2025, including Doubao and Jimeng > https://www.doubao.com/chat/create-video https://www.doubao.com/chat/create-video > https://jimeng.jianying.com/ai-tool/video/generate https://jimeng.jianying.com/ai-tool/video/generate https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.09113 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.09113
- GaggiX 1y agoVery nice being able to read an actual paper on a powerful text-to-video model.
- liuliu 1y agoYeah. It is great. So apparently separating spatial / temporal attention works if you are careful and train with large enough dataset too!
- thebestmoshe 1y agoThe future is something like the TikTok algorithm, but generated on the fly. As you scroll, it learns what you like and generates more videos.
- arbll 1y agoI think it will also try to influence what you like to maximize engagement unfortunately...
- BizarroLand 1y agoThere's a cliff though. It will happen for different people at different times, but at some point the realization that you are looking at people who don't exist living lives that aren't possible to sell you products that won't help you will click for you, and when it does it will cut you off from society in a way we don't currently have words for.
- pmontra 1y ago> you are looking at people who don't exist living lives that aren't possible to sell you products that won't help you That's a description of most TV commercials.
- _Algernon_ 1y agoAre you sure about that? In the Matrix Cypher wants to return into the matrix knowing fully well that it is fake, and backstabs his friends to accomplish it. I suspect we may see it play out similarly irl. Fiction tends to be pretty good at commenting on human nature.
- BizarroLand 1y agoThere's a trope of humans who don't fit in to the world. My comment is more that more and more people will find themselves as that person unexpectedly as they are driven out by the popularity of people that do not exist. Sure, some people may love the idea of being the only real person in a sea of fakes, but those people are true freaks and not worth discussing except out of pity. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LonersAreFreaks https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LonersAreFreaks
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- pointlessone 1y agoSome of the shots are impressive but… Even among these hand-picked examples there’s a plenty of unnatural movement. And it seems like it was trained on the most hyperactive subset of tiktok as it apparently can’t hold a scene for more than 5 seconds.
- echelon 1y agoByteDance has been testing their model on the Model Arena for weeks. They were covertly calling their model "Unicorn" until just a few days ago. It's already ranking better than Google Veo 3: https://artificialanalysis.ai/text-to-video/arena?tab=leaderboard&input=image https://artificialanalysis.ai/text-to-video/arena?tab=leader...
- cchance 1y agoBy a LOT too lol, not even close, wow, that said, i imagine if they enabled veo3's sound... it would win lol
- tecleandor 1y agoWhile it pulls some pretty difficult things, it seems to struggle with other *seemingly* simple ones. The piano in the beginning or the photo camera used by the photographer has "AI text" written on it. The old man with the beret in the cafe goes through his beret with his hand. The girl on the seaside looking back turns her head too much almost like an owl. The boy-in-a-bike-through-an-ewuropean-city scene ends on a square with an amorphous being in a unicycle under the tree...
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- Permik 1y agoOnly light skinned people on the video examples. Ethnic diversity and accuracy used to be a problem with the models of the past. I wonder how the model would excel at prompts grokking at that.
- bufferoverflow 1y agoDecent 1080p quality. Not bluray level, but getting close. Definitely ahead of every other video generator. Video production just got a lot cheaper and requires very few skills. This is basically destroying the creative video production industry (ads, product videography, youtube content of all kinds) and probably VFX industry as well.
- echelon 1y agoIt's beating Google Veo 3 in the model arena: https://artificialanalysis.ai/text-to-video/arena?tab=leaderboard&input=image https://artificialanalysis.ai/text-to-video/arena?tab=leader... They've been running tests for weeks under the covert name "Unicorn" and just renamed the model to Seedance a few days ago. edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for this, except perhaps not liking the ByteDance angle. China produces incredibly good video models and have been in the market lead for at least a year now. All of the top video models, save for Veo 3, are from China. In fact, the only open source video models of note are all non-American (mostly Chinese, and one Israeli model).
- energywut 1y agoWe're so fucked, as a species. People are already way too easy to get to believe conspiracy theories. Shit like Pizzagate or whatever is only going to get more common when bad people start making, "and look, here's the video proof!" And we've already got Tiktok and Youtube Shorts just pumping the dopamine centers in the brain for short form content. Generating shit you like dynamically is going to be an addictive nightmare. The moment it gets monetized we're going to see the equivalent of slot machines pumped at us from every channel -- flashing lights and emotional tugs to get us to part with our valuable money or attention. And that's to say nothing of the impact these tools have on artists and creative people or the costs to train and deploy these tools. We're already seeing it today. The amount of 'footage' about LA right now that's showing some sort of war zone that is clearly AI generated, but being consumed as if it was real is staggering.
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- jadbox 1y agoWe can only hope that people become aware that the Internet is a bullshit-machine and will only pull their news information from journalists, but I know this is wishful thinking.
- dachris 1y agoYes, perfect AI content has multiple issues, that need to be addressed differently - treating certain content in the same way that drugs are treated. Lots of countries are already moving towards age restrictions for social media. - some kind of hardware-provided signatures for images and video, anything else must be assumed to be generated Will be interesting for kids growing up - the peer pressure is now already very high to have smartphones, to be on Whatsapp, Instagram, TikTok, this will only get worse. Maybe if I have kids I will found some Amish-like community with only 90's tech (only half joking).
- Intralexical 1y agoWe've basically flooded the information space with r-strategists. In evolution, rapid reproduction gives an advantage to spamming low-quality offspring [1], and rapid selection without agglomeration [2,3] incentivizes antisocial behavior. Ideas spread, mutate, and evolve just like animals [4]. So when the Internet made it free for anyone to transmit information to millions of people instantly, trustworthy information sources [5] and prosocial cultural values started dying [6], as literally the worst and craziest people become dominant [7,8,9,10,11]. ...Presumably "AI" is going to make this even worse, and immeasurably so. --- 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory 2. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0027669 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_collapse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_collapse 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_newspapers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_newspapers 6. https://theweek.com/culture-life/third-places-disappearing https://theweek.com/culture-life/third-places-disappearing 7. https://globalnews.ca/news/1157137/internet-trolls-are-sadists-and-psychopaths-canadian-study/ https://globalnews.ca/news/1157137/internet-trolls-are-sadis... 8. https://www.engadget.com/2018-03-19-study-shows-distribution-of-reddit-fights.html https://www.engadget.com/2018-03-19-study-shows-distribution... 9. https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9rvroo/most_of_what_you_read_on_the_internet_is_written/ https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9rvroo/most... 10. https://www.ipr.northwestern.edu/news/2023/why-are-online-political-discussions-so-toxic.html https://www.ipr.northwestern.edu/news/2023/why-are-online-po... 11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakistocracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakistocracy
- bytesandbots 1y agoHas the realism of AI already caught on to that of animated CGI movies? I assume that an expert in CGI can point out obvious flaws in these outputs. But I wonder if it is possible to fix those details by prompting it to change only specific segments. There is also the question of how much compute/money they are spending per second of output, compared to a high-budget Hollywood CGI.
- layer8 1y agoGiven how bad regular (non-animated) CGI often is in Hollywood movies nowadays, I don’t think the bar is that high. Change management will indeed be interesting.
- robviren 1y agoI look forward to a day when capabilities like this are trivial and boring to the average person. When my phone (locally) will be able to generate a fully voice acted 24 episode series anime on a whim for a meme with my group chat. It's astounding what we can do now, but will be completely ignorable before we know it, which is equally wild.
- echelon 1y agoMore content will be made in a single month than all of human history up to this point. No more Disney-fication, no more Marvel / Star Wars "mass media slop". We'll have media that caters to people's long-tail interests. If you have a passion for Egyptology and Atlantis, you'll be able to watch a steampunk adventure about the Egyptians waging war with the Atlanteans. But perhaps with the serious tone of "The Wire". That would never have been greenlit before, but it'll soon be possible. Good creators will arise just like good indie music, indie manga/comic, and indie game creators. Discovery will be the problem to solve for creators. There will be an abundance of talent that is finally able to create their vision rather than nepotism their way into one of 500 limited annual roles of autonomy. Small creators who grow large like VivziePop [1] and PsychicPebbles [2] will be the model for the future of content. They start small on YouTube, grow large, and eventually have their own large-scale distribution and franchises. The creative world is about to get orders of magnitude better. Not 2x, not 10x, but easily 1,000x. I hate most movies and tv shows, but love the medium. The problem is most content produced just isn't my vibe. I like super artsy stuff, but also have particular tastes. That's going to change dramatically. Stuff will start fitting the shape of my interest graph. I'm so excited. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivienne_Medrano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivienne_Medrano [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Hadel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Hadel
- troupo 1y ago> No more Disney-fication, no more Marvel / Star Wars "mass media slop". We'll have media that caters to people's long-tail interests. Lol. Where do you think these models will get the source data for these amazing generations? Also, an average person's "long tail" is incredibly boring (I know mine is). You will need someone to create a next Breaking Bad, or a next Discworld, or... Your slop-generating machine will not be able to generate it from a "long tail"
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- dvdjtdbidy 1y agoRshtach ag
- cchance 1y agoSadly another closed model that will never go open weights i'd guess
- cchance 1y agoreally coo, but wheres the sound? i'd expect that they'd have built in the sound model since its gonna look like SOTA for video, VEO3 is great for video but the audios what knocks it out of the park
- paulluuk 1y agoI work on AI solutions for a major video streaming company, and the problem with VEO3 is that it doesn't have any consistency between prompts. E.g. I can not upload a reference image of what a character looks like, and if I say in one video "the old priest bends down" and in the next video "the old priests picks up the coin", the priest will look very different between shots. Veo3 does support image to video, so what you can do is create an image that is the start of a scene, and then use that to generate the actual scene. Unfortunately, Veo3 is really bad at this. I expect this will improve over time. Although I'm not super excited about this Seedance model personally, I do really like that it focuses on consistency between shots. I hope this puts pressure on increased performance from Veo3 in that regard.
- Uehreka 1y ago> I expect this will improve over time. I’m starting to wonder if it will. There seems to be this pattern that an awesome T2V model will come out and everyone starts clamoring for an I2V model and then when the I2V version drops a couple months later it’s not as good. I’m starting to get the feeling that I2V is just intrinsically challenging in a way that makes it hard to do well at all.
- benzible 1y ago"Old man" doesn't look that old to me (guess that means I'm old!)
- sergiotapia 1y agoHollywood is cooked isn't it?
- ramon156 1y agoIts been cooked for ~2-3 years now
- DavidVoid 1y agoMan I hate when sites hijack the page up/down keys.
- tartoran 1y agoI feel so bad for the next generation who will never have watched man made movies, they will not be able to tell whether something is junk or not because there will be no baseline.
- pkkkzip 1y agoI dont think they care as long as the content is good. Even memes popular at that demographic are AI generated today.
- smusamashah 1y agoThere is something in motion heavy videos that is making me nauseas/sick in my stomach. Last time I felt this was with first Sora release. It's not as bad as Sora, but its there. Veo 3 didn't gave me these feelings or may be I haven't seen its motion heavy samples. Does anyone else feels same looking at motion heavy samples of Seedance?
- electriclove 1y agoWhy do all the examples have a large circle in them?
- burkaman 1y agoLike every AI launch demo I've ever seen, the results are unbelievably high quality, but if you take a second to read the prompts they never quite match. Here basically every single example is ignoring a portion of the prompt; sometimes the camera directions, sometimes the atmospheric description, sometimes making up very distinct elements that were not mentioned at all. People talk about "AI slop" because these models are really good when you just want "content" and you don't really care exactly what it looks like, but if you are trying to produce something specific, which you are in every real-world use case I can think of, it is very frustrating and often impossible to get there.
- bieber 1y agoAs a Chinese,I am proud of ByteDance. It make the China's AI industry at the top of the world. Although we have been banned by USA
- mynti 1y agoyou guys keep making everyone else kind of look bad. all eyes on china soon/now for AI
- gherard5555 1y agoCan't wait for infinite ai generated video slop
- citizenpaul 1y agoAm i the only one that finds these and all AI video rather underwhelming and more importantly subjectivly not that good? Sure the image quality is nice but nothing about them ever stick with me like countless small projects people make. I just see them and think, thats cool then forget about it forever. It seems to me they all have subtle "badness" that makes them essentially useless. Quick example on this is the video of "guy sitting on the subway chair" has people passing in front of him even as the camera is about an inch from his face. Unless you are half asleep it is disconnecting in a way that my brain background processing says this is nonsense and I cannot care about it. It seems all AI video has this issue at this time in essentially infinite ways. Meaning I don't think there is any near term solution that will make them viable for production use. Maybe I'm just old and not suited to this new hyper ADHD style media world.