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But the things mentioned in the post above yours have nothing to do with telemetry. They're more like core functions to make the system work at all.

by snehk 1y ago

sitzkrieg 1y ago
take a look at fbs.smoot.apple.com and argue that isnt telemetry? why does an os need to hit the internet AT ALL to work? osx doesnt of course
- mcphage 1y ago
  > why does an os need to hit the internet AT ALL to work? Does it actually need to hit these to work?
  - sitzkrieg 1y ago
    no, as i indicated above, and is patently clear to anyone who has turned off wifi
politelemon 1y ago
No that's incorrect. It is listed in TFA.
neogodless 1y ago
> Which then becomes a question of how much time/money to they invest in features for 1% of users? Now how much time do they invest in those same features when the 99% will stumble in there, turn a bunch of stuff off, then call support and ask why their weather widget isn't updating? That sounds like telemetry?
- al_borland 1y ago
  The features I was referring to would be a control panel to list all the various remote calls to let uses micromanage what calls they wanted and which ones they didn’t. Inside of those settings could be options to enable/disable telemetry, sure. But also push notifications, weather updates, virus definition updates, etc.
  - amy214 1y ago
    That's how it should be if all was fair, I feel like what we have here is a "dark pattern" whereby keeping all the telemetries opaque ... enables one to keep around the nasty sort of telemetry the company very much wishes to remain opaque.
yencabulator 1y ago
The article, then again, specifically talks also about telemetry. The parent commenter conveniently chose to ignore them because of the Apple reality distortion field. > fbs.smoot.apple.com - for crash reports, analytics, or user feedback. > purchase pancake.apple.com - telemetry > xp.apple.com - telemetry

But the things mentioned in the post above yours have nothing to do with telemetry. They're more like core functions to make the system work at all.

by snehk 1y ago

But the things mentioned in the post above yours have nothing to do with telemetry. They're more like core functions to make the system work at all.

sitzkrieg 1y ago

take a look at fbs.smoot.apple.com and argue that isnt telemetry? why does an os need to hit the internet AT ALL to work? osx doesnt of course

mcphage 1y ago
> why does an os need to hit the internet AT ALL to work? Does it actually need to hit these to work?
- sitzkrieg 1y ago
  no, as i indicated above, and is patently clear to anyone who has turned off wifi

politelemon 1y ago

No that's incorrect. It is listed in TFA.

neogodless 1y ago

> Which then becomes a question of how much time/money to they invest in features for 1% of users? Now how much time do they invest in those same features when the 99% will stumble in there, turn a bunch of stuff off, then call support and ask why their weather widget isn't updating? That sounds like telemetry?

al_borland 1y ago
The features I was referring to would be a control panel to list all the various remote calls to let uses micromanage what calls they wanted and which ones they didn’t. Inside of those settings could be options to enable/disable telemetry, sure. But also push notifications, weather updates, virus definition updates, etc.
- amy214 1y ago
  That's how it should be if all was fair, I feel like what we have here is a "dark pattern" whereby keeping all the telemetries opaque ... enables one to keep around the nasty sort of telemetry the company very much wishes to remain opaque.

yencabulator 1y ago

The article, then again, specifically talks also about telemetry. The parent commenter conveniently chose to ignore them because of the Apple reality distortion field. > fbs.smoot.apple.com - for crash reports, analytics, or user feedback. > purchase pancake.apple.com - telemetry > xp.apple.com - telemetry