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For fun, compare and contrast the comments here to this post on Windows 10 from 5 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208050 https://news.ycombina

by Ardren 1y ago

For fun, compare and contrast the comments here to this post on Windows 10 from 5 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208050

brookst 1y ago
This article: Apple’s OS relies on a lot of services to deliver its features! That article: Microsoft reports every click you make Is that the comparison you’re making?
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- joshstrange 1y ago
  No. This article: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use > while not in use That is not "Apple reports every click you make", _very_ different from Microsoft. These requests seem like they are all for background tasks to keep data up to date when the user goes to use it. Now can you see a difference between that and _reporting_ on what you are doing?
  - idoubtit 1y ago
    > These requests seem like they are all for background tasks to keep data up to date when the user goes to use it. Where did you get this information? Is it just a guess based on what Apple declared about these domains? In the article, there is no info about the content sent to these Apple owned domains. For all we know, MacOS could send detailed reports on the user's activity.
    - brookst 1y ago
      I mean it could be sending your actual thoughts based on undocumented long range EEGs. But the burden of proof is on those who claim something works differently than documented.
mtotheb 1y ago
An important variable, the titles of the posts set the stage. That post's title was "Windows 10 _spies_ on your use of System Settings" whereas this one is "My Mac _contacted_ 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use." It would be interesting to, in a month or so when everyone has forgotten this conversation, repost this with a more critical title and see if that reshapes the comments or influences their tone.
- ryandrake 1y ago
  Apple gets a lot of benefit of doubt here and in the tech press, some of it having been earned. When other vendors' OSs phone home dozens of time, it's nefarious. When Apple phones home dozens of times, it's for innocent "core functionality" or other reasons that sound acceptable.

by Ardren 1y ago

For fun, compare and contrast the comments here to this post on Windows 10 from 5 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44208050

brookst 1y ago

This article: Apple’s OS relies on a lot of services to deliver its features! That article: Microsoft reports every click you make Is that the comparison you’re making?

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joshstrange 1y ago
No. This article: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use > while not in use That is not "Apple reports every click you make", _very_ different from Microsoft. These requests seem like they are all for background tasks to keep data up to date when the user goes to use it. Now can you see a difference between that and _reporting_ on what you are doing?
- idoubtit 1y ago
  > These requests seem like they are all for background tasks to keep data up to date when the user goes to use it. Where did you get this information? Is it just a guess based on what Apple declared about these domains? In the article, there is no info about the content sent to these Apple owned domains. For all we know, MacOS could send detailed reports on the user's activity.
  - brookst 1y ago
    I mean it could be sending your actual thoughts based on undocumented long range EEGs. But the burden of proof is on those who claim something works differently than documented.

mtotheb 1y ago

An important variable, the titles of the posts set the stage. That post's title was "Windows 10 _spies_ on your use of System Settings" whereas this one is "My Mac _contacted_ 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use." It would be interesting to, in a month or so when everyone has forgotten this conversation, repost this with a more critical title and see if that reshapes the comments or influences their tone.

ryandrake 1y ago
Apple gets a lot of benefit of doubt here and in the tech press, some of it having been earned. When other vendors' OSs phone home dozens of time, it's nefarious. When Apple phones home dozens of times, it's for innocent "core functionality" or other reasons that sound acceptable.