I understand what you mean lol, I don't even consider myself a christian anymore but i still feel this weird sectarian loyalty to the protestants. I guess I st

I understand what you mean lol, I don't even consider myself a christian anymore but i still feel this weird sectarian loyalty to the protestants. I guess I still admire Martin Luther because I see the concept of the priesthood not claiming to be a representative of God as a necessary pre-requisite for secularism; not that I think that the early protestants deserve credit for that (it obviously wasn't their intention and many of them probably would have run back to catholicism if they knew what this would lead to) but must of the populace in secular countries is still religious to some degree and it's hard to convince them to separate the church from the state when the church is literally a proxy for God almighty. Of course, I'm also well-aware that there's plenty of latitude to disagree with and even criticize the pope (eg, JD Vance) but my understanding is that came about gradually in the centuries after the protestant reformation as the two groups became less antagonistic towards each other and both sides became more open to adopting beliefs and philosophies from each other.