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Seems like they lost power? https://x.com/georgiameloniii/status/1933091545248641248 https://x.com/georgiameloniii/status/1933091545248641248

hnpolicestate 1y ago
Did the Italian PM really say "I pray all passengers are safe" after posting that fireball?
- aaldrick 1y ago
  its a parody account
- AHTERIX5000 1y ago
  It seems to be a parody account
ihuk 1y ago
There's a better, longer video on Reddit. At the beginning of the video, it sounds like the Ram Air Turbine (RAT) is deployed, which would suggest a dual engine failure.
- Simon_O_Rourke 1y ago
  Dual engine failure with a stall right at the end as it's going in. Guessing it's either a foreign object ingested into both engines, probably a bird strike, or fuel starvation.
  - ihuk 1y ago
    Here's a Reddit video: https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shanti_to_everyone/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shant... And here's a YouTube video showing a Ram Air Turbine (RAT) being deployed on a 787 for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBCGf50Trc&t=69s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBCGf50Trc&t=69s
    - Simon_O_Rourke 1y ago
      I'm assuming the Ram Air Turbine gives extra evidence of a dual engine failure (or at least the engine that generated power). Engine spools down, power is lost, air turbine needs to be deployed.
      - ihuk 1y ago
        Yeah, I believe the RAT is automatically deployed when both engines fail or when there's a critical loss of pressure in the hydraulic systems.
    - ExoticPearTree 1y ago
      I don't see the RAT deployed on the video on Reddit. Can you tell the timestamp to zoom in? I'm super curious.
      - consp 1y ago
        Those things are tiny and very transparent (since it's pretty much a propeller) and video compression, plus it's a video of a screen, will eat it up against a clear sky.
      - ihuk 1y ago
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtPFDrnbAAA6c68?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtPFDrnbAAA6c68?format=jpg&name=... It could be the blurry object under the fuselage, just to the right of the left engine.
        ExoticPearTree 1y ago
        From another video, the RAT on the 787 is on the right. New videos came out and so far the prevailing theory is that flaps were retracted too soon. Most likely instead of gear up.
lormayna 1y ago
Going OT: why a parody account of Italian PM is tweeting a video about an airplane accident in India? Really weird
- captn3m0 1y ago
  The account is run from India.
  - uncircle 1y ago
    That raises even more questions.
    - arandomusername 1y ago
      It's very common, ever since twitter added monetization. It makes the site a lot more unbearable.
    - thatloststudent 1y ago
      Not really, this is more of an internet meme [1]. [1] - https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-responds-to-italys-giorgia-melonis-melodi-post-that-broke-internet-2470301-2023-12-02 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-responds-to-it...
    - potato3732842 1y ago
      To be fair, you kinda gotta be on the outside of something to make good humor about it.
- gsky 1y ago
  People always tweet trending stuff for popularity as simple as that
  - lormayna 1y ago
    But this seems a "first hand" content, not a retweet.
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snickerbockers 1y ago
jesus, that's terrifying. The pilot has control of the plane all the way down but nowhere to even attempt a landing. All he can do is raise the flaps, deploy the landing gear and hope for the best. Although TBH it also seems like a failure of city planning, aren't most major airports outside of the limits of the city they're associated with because of stuff like this? I know most of them don't have anywhere safe to attempt an emergency landing immediately after leaving the runway but at least there aren't a bunch of homes and office buildings.
- navigate8310 1y ago
  This is India we are talking about. The population density and surrounding encroachment is usually why even small domestic cylinder blast could take lives of 100s.
- placardloop 1y ago
  No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.
  - snickerbockers 1y ago
    that's actually not true and it's very easy to disprove because SFO is in the top 20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i.... I'm sure this is an airport most of the people on this site are familiar with but just in case you aren't, it's on reclaimed land in the San Francisco bay.
    - placardloop 1y ago
      There’s a massive, incredibly dense neighborhood of houses and offices less than 1000 feet to the south, west, and north of every one of SFOs runways.
    - 1y ago

hnpolicestate 1y ago

Did the Italian PM really say "I pray all passengers are safe" after posting that fireball?

aaldrick 1y ago
its a parody account
AHTERIX5000 1y ago
It seems to be a parody account

ihuk 1y ago

There's a better, longer video on Reddit. At the beginning of the video, it sounds like the Ram Air Turbine (RAT) is deployed, which would suggest a dual engine failure.

Simon_O_Rourke 1y ago
Dual engine failure with a stall right at the end as it's going in. Guessing it's either a foreign object ingested into both engines, probably a bird strike, or fuel starvation.
- ihuk 1y ago
  Here's a Reddit video: https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shanti_to_everyone/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shant... And here's a YouTube video showing a Ram Air Turbine (RAT) being deployed on a 787 for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBCGf50Trc&t=69s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBCGf50Trc&t=69s
  - Simon_O_Rourke 1y ago
    I'm assuming the Ram Air Turbine gives extra evidence of a dual engine failure (or at least the engine that generated power). Engine spools down, power is lost, air turbine needs to be deployed.
    - ihuk 1y ago
      Yeah, I believe the RAT is automatically deployed when both engines fail or when there's a critical loss of pressure in the hydraulic systems.
  - ExoticPearTree 1y ago
    I don't see the RAT deployed on the video on Reddit. Can you tell the timestamp to zoom in? I'm super curious.
    - consp 1y ago
      Those things are tiny and very transparent (since it's pretty much a propeller) and video compression, plus it's a video of a screen, will eat it up against a clear sky.
    - ihuk 1y ago
      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtPFDrnbAAA6c68?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtPFDrnbAAA6c68?format=jpg&name=... It could be the blurry object under the fuselage, just to the right of the left engine.
      - ExoticPearTree 1y ago
        From another video, the RAT on the 787 is on the right. New videos came out and so far the prevailing theory is that flaps were retracted too soon. Most likely instead of gear up.

lormayna 1y ago

Going OT: why a parody account of Italian PM is tweeting a video about an airplane accident in India? Really weird

captn3m0 1y ago
The account is run from India.
- uncircle 1y ago
  That raises even more questions.
  - arandomusername 1y ago
    It's very common, ever since twitter added monetization. It makes the site a lot more unbearable.
  - thatloststudent 1y ago
    Not really, this is more of an internet meme [1]. [1] - https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-responds-to-italys-giorgia-melonis-melodi-post-that-broke-internet-2470301-2023-12-02 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-responds-to-it...
  - potato3732842 1y ago
    To be fair, you kinda gotta be on the outside of something to make good humor about it.
gsky 1y ago
People always tweet trending stuff for popularity as simple as that
- lormayna 1y ago
  But this seems a "first hand" content, not a retweet.

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snickerbockers 1y ago

jesus, that's terrifying. The pilot has control of the plane all the way down but nowhere to even attempt a landing. All he can do is raise the flaps, deploy the landing gear and hope for the best. Although TBH it also seems like a failure of city planning, aren't most major airports outside of the limits of the city they're associated with because of stuff like this? I know most of them don't have anywhere safe to attempt an emergency landing immediately after leaving the runway but at least there aren't a bunch of homes and office buildings.

navigate8310 1y ago
This is India we are talking about. The population density and surrounding encroachment is usually why even small domestic cylinder blast could take lives of 100s.
placardloop 1y ago
No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.
- snickerbockers 1y ago
  that's actually not true and it's very easy to disprove because SFO is in the top 20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i.... I'm sure this is an airport most of the people on this site are familiar with but just in case you aren't, it's on reclaimed land in the San Francisco bay.
  - placardloop 1y ago
    There’s a massive, incredibly dense neighborhood of houses and offices less than 1000 feet to the south, west, and north of every one of SFOs runways.
  - 1y ago