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> The still use Czech Republic for Czechia Naive question but is Czechia a new name? The UN lists "Czech Republic" as official name and "Czechia" as the short

> The still use Czech Republic for Czechia Naive question but is Czechia a new name? The UN lists "Czech Republic" as official name and "Czechia" as the short name. > Republic of Ireland for Ireland To be fair, I don't think this is partisan, but rather just a way to differentiate the state from the island.

Symbiote 1y ago
If an article would use "Islamic Republic of Iran" then it should use "Czech Republic". If they would just write "Iran" then they should use "Czechia".
- davkan 1y ago
  I don’t know about the UK but, In America I never hear Czechia, just Czech Republic. To my ears it sounds no more formal than “United States”. I understand that’s not the case in the EU though.
  - basisword 1y ago
    To be fair Czechia has been official for less than a decade. Unless people are dealing with it on a regular basis they're going to use what they know which, for most is still Czech Republic.
    - closewith 1y ago
      Czechia has been the official name in English since independence in 1993. It's only since 2016 that the Government of the Czech Republic has been making a concerted effort to change usage abroad.
- closewith 1y ago
  No, that's not the case, as even in contexts where the long name is normally used, such as UN nameplates and resolutions, Czechia is now used in preparation for the removal of the long name.
theelous3 1y ago
As an Irish person, yes. Just calling Ireland Ireland when you are specifically being asked what country you are from for official purposes is a bit too orbital a view. Same goes for discussions from within a country holding contested ground sharing the name of a country with an island, blah blah. It's a complicated subject, and nobody begrudges them the clarity.
- closewith 1y ago
  I think if you ask around, you'll find yourself very much in the minority of Irish people. Republic of Ireland is almost never used outside of the football team, as it's simply not the name of the country.
  - johannes1234321 1y ago
    While I. The context of the BBC, the distinction to Northern Ireland is relevant.
  - theelous3 1y ago
    You're not understanding my comment at all. I'm not talking about the internal use of ROI within Ireland. Not once have I heard anyone even broach this as a topic. Nobody cares. If someone asks you where you are from, and you tell them Ireland, and they inquire the north or the republic - what are you going to do? Just repeat "Ireland" at them like some kind of contrarian idiot? Tell them you are "not from northern Ireland" so as to rule out all of the places you are not from? ROI is a perfectly serviceable term for helping people understand what you mean, if the context isn't clear enough already.
    - closewith 1y ago
      > Not once have I heard anyone even broach this as a topic. I have a feeling you just don't pay attention or, from previous experience with you, are incapable of determining how other people feel about this topic. > ROI is a perfectly serviceable term for helping people understand what you mean, if the context isn't clear enough already. It's a specifically politically charged term used by people who either don't know better or have a bone to pick. It's not commonly used in Ireland and it's not used to differentiate innocently between Northern Ireland and Ireland.
closewith 1y ago
> Naive question but is Czechia a new name? Not a new name, but Czechia has made a concerted effort since 2016 to have it used in place of the Czech Republic. Almost all international body and most media style guides have since acceded. The BBC lags. > To be fair, I don't think this is partisan, but rather just a way to differentiate the state from the island. No, like the British Isles, this is very much a controversial name and one to which the Irish Government formally objects. This is even the source of a diplomatic disagreement between the Irish Government and Wikipedia due to their style guide.
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Symbiote 1y ago

If an article would use "Islamic Republic of Iran" then it should use "Czech Republic". If they would just write "Iran" then they should use "Czechia".

davkan 1y ago
I don’t know about the UK but, In America I never hear Czechia, just Czech Republic. To my ears it sounds no more formal than “United States”. I understand that’s not the case in the EU though.
- basisword 1y ago
  To be fair Czechia has been official for less than a decade. Unless people are dealing with it on a regular basis they're going to use what they know which, for most is still Czech Republic.
  - closewith 1y ago
    Czechia has been the official name in English since independence in 1993. It's only since 2016 that the Government of the Czech Republic has been making a concerted effort to change usage abroad.
closewith 1y ago
No, that's not the case, as even in contexts where the long name is normally used, such as UN nameplates and resolutions, Czechia is now used in preparation for the removal of the long name.

theelous3 1y ago

As an Irish person, yes. Just calling Ireland Ireland when you are specifically being asked what country you are from for official purposes is a bit too orbital a view. Same goes for discussions from within a country holding contested ground sharing the name of a country with an island, blah blah. It's a complicated subject, and nobody begrudges them the clarity.

closewith 1y ago
I think if you ask around, you'll find yourself very much in the minority of Irish people. Republic of Ireland is almost never used outside of the football team, as it's simply not the name of the country.
- johannes1234321 1y ago
  While I. The context of the BBC, the distinction to Northern Ireland is relevant.
- theelous3 1y ago
  You're not understanding my comment at all. I'm not talking about the internal use of ROI within Ireland. Not once have I heard anyone even broach this as a topic. Nobody cares. If someone asks you where you are from, and you tell them Ireland, and they inquire the north or the republic - what are you going to do? Just repeat "Ireland" at them like some kind of contrarian idiot? Tell them you are "not from northern Ireland" so as to rule out all of the places you are not from? ROI is a perfectly serviceable term for helping people understand what you mean, if the context isn't clear enough already.
  - closewith 1y ago
    > Not once have I heard anyone even broach this as a topic. I have a feeling you just don't pay attention or, from previous experience with you, are incapable of determining how other people feel about this topic. > ROI is a perfectly serviceable term for helping people understand what you mean, if the context isn't clear enough already. It's a specifically politically charged term used by people who either don't know better or have a bone to pick. It's not commonly used in Ireland and it's not used to differentiate innocently between Northern Ireland and Ireland.

closewith 1y ago

> Naive question but is Czechia a new name? Not a new name, but Czechia has made a concerted effort since 2016 to have it used in place of the Czech Republic. Almost all international body and most media style guides have since acceded. The BBC lags. > To be fair, I don't think this is partisan, but rather just a way to differentiate the state from the island. No, like the British Isles, this is very much a controversial name and one to which the Irish Government formally objects. This is even the source of a diplomatic disagreement between the Irish Government and Wikipedia due to their style guide.

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