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This useless lack of clarity in design is clearly an example of lack of work ethics. "Boss, this idea is shit and I am not implementing it. Either you change o

This useless lack of clarity in design is clearly an example of lack of work ethics. "Boss, this idea is shit and I am not implementing it. Either you change or I go." And before leaving, an email to the boss's boss or to the CEO.

mft_ 1y ago
Working in large organisations, my experience is that the proportion of people who care enough is small; and the proportion of those who are willing to fall on their sword vanishingly so. And the boss's boss or the CEO wouldn't listen anyway, as they'd ask their reports what was what, and receive an appropriate 'message'.
bryanrasmussen 1y ago
yeah, man, definitely it was a big mistake on my part to have these kids, also to age anyway and become the last guy anyone wants to hire - hey check out this CV, he has been programming for two decades, grandpa will yell at us all day about our dumb decisions, we better not hire grandpa!! Ooh grandpa quit because of the stupid idea instead of just yelling - yayyyyy! Wonder how he is going to earn money to survive, well not my problem - Now, let's implement this stupid idea! on edit: this comes up every now and then and there are all sorts of reasons why people can't take the high road, especially not on stuff that is just "stupid ideas", and I guess this time it falls to me to respond. Certainly people not quitting because your company is say, putting addictive chemicals in cigarettes or accepting a certain number of fatalities from cars instead of spending more money to make them safer or all sorts of moral issues is something that should be judged - but considering how often people don't do the right thing when even other people are going to die it seems a bit much to expect people will do the right thing when design sucks and is stupid, and it seems likely to expect that your claim that people should is issued from a position where you can completely afford to do so - most of the time people say "must be nice" at this point, but hey I spent a lot of my time at that position in life and I can confirm "yes, it is nice" and it really sucks to be in a position where one can't do that stuff anymore, but that's life I guess.

mft_ 1y ago

Working in large organisations, my experience is that the proportion of people who care enough is small; and the proportion of those who are willing to fall on their sword vanishingly so. And the boss's boss or the CEO wouldn't listen anyway, as they'd ask their reports what was what, and receive an appropriate 'message'.

bryanrasmussen 1y ago

yeah, man, definitely it was a big mistake on my part to have these kids, also to age anyway and become the last guy anyone wants to hire - hey check out this CV, he has been programming for two decades, grandpa will yell at us all day about our dumb decisions, we better not hire grandpa!! Ooh grandpa quit because of the stupid idea instead of just yelling - yayyyyy! Wonder how he is going to earn money to survive, well not my problem - Now, let's implement this stupid idea! on edit: this comes up every now and then and there are all sorts of reasons why people can't take the high road, especially not on stuff that is just "stupid ideas", and I guess this time it falls to me to respond. Certainly people not quitting because your company is say, putting addictive chemicals in cigarettes or accepting a certain number of fatalities from cars instead of spending more money to make them safer or all sorts of moral issues is something that should be judged - but considering how often people don't do the right thing when even other people are going to die it seems a bit much to expect people will do the right thing when design sucks and is stupid, and it seems likely to expect that your claim that people should is issued from a position where you can completely afford to do so - most of the time people say "must be nice" at this point, but hey I spent a lot of my time at that position in life and I can confirm "yes, it is nice" and it really sucks to be in a position where one can't do that stuff anymore, but that's life I guess.