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As far as I understand this only concerns Google Pixel devices, and AOSP "coming to an end" is mostly speculation. Is this going to affect other manufacturers t

As far as I understand this only concerns Google Pixel devices, and AOSP "coming to an end" is mostly speculation. Is this going to affect other manufacturers too, e.g. the Fairphone[1]? [1] https://www.fairphone.com https://www.fairphone.com

charcircuit 1y ago
Fairphone should still be able to get the source for Android from Qualcomm.
- hilbert42 1y ago
  How?
  - charcircuit 1y ago
    Looking at how it works for Wear OS. Qualcomm still only hosts the repos for the BSP and not the whole OS. It's expected to still get those from Google, from the partner portal.
    - Aachen 1y ago
      > (BSP) is the layer of software containing hardware-specific boot loaders, device drivers, in sometimes operating system kernels, and other routines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_support_package https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_support_package presumably. Never heard that TLA in my life and it's not like I've not gotten my hands dirty in Android
      - swiftcoder 1y ago
        Unless you are actually shipping a custom device running Android, there's very little reason for most developers to poke that far down the stack
      - overfeed 1y ago
        You wouldn't need to touch BSPs or drivers unless you're doing bringup or updating the Android kernel for a supported device. The common approach to avoid a lot of pain whn updating Android is to simply stay on the old kernel supported by the OEM or partner.
      - kaladin-jasnah 1y ago
        This acronym is somewhat known in Android device hacking communities that try to replace Android with Linux or Windows, because these communities usually deal with understanding the bootloader and Qualcomm distributes bootloader sources from what I remember in their BSP.
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How does the firmware upgrade cycle looks like? Does their secure element securely throttle pin brute force? Does their hardware offer modern memory protection?

charcircuit 1y ago

Fairphone should still be able to get the source for Android from Qualcomm.

hilbert42 1y ago
How?
- charcircuit 1y ago
  Looking at how it works for Wear OS. Qualcomm still only hosts the repos for the BSP and not the whole OS. It's expected to still get those from Google, from the partner portal.
  - Aachen 1y ago
    > (BSP) is the layer of software containing hardware-specific boot loaders, device drivers, in sometimes operating system kernels, and other routines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_support_package https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_support_package presumably. Never heard that TLA in my life and it's not like I've not gotten my hands dirty in Android
    - swiftcoder 1y ago
      Unless you are actually shipping a custom device running Android, there's very little reason for most developers to poke that far down the stack
    - overfeed 1y ago
      You wouldn't need to touch BSPs or drivers unless you're doing bringup or updating the Android kernel for a supported device. The common approach to avoid a lot of pain whn updating Android is to simply stay on the old kernel supported by the OEM or partner.
    - kaladin-jasnah 1y ago
      This acronym is somewhat known in Android device hacking communities that try to replace Android with Linux or Windows, because these communities usually deal with understanding the bootloader and Qualcomm distributes bootloader sources from what I remember in their BSP.

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How does the firmware upgrade cycle looks like? Does their secure element securely throttle pin brute force? Does their hardware offer modern memory protection?