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> “I’m disappointed that you’ve chose to knock off/copy a respected industry leader, and undercutting them, therefore starting a race to the bottom.” I sincere
by ef4 14y ago
> “I’m disappointed that you’ve chose to knock off/copy a respected industry leader, and undercutting them, therefore starting a race to the bottom.”
I sincerely hope we do get a "race to the bottom" on 3d printer prices, the same way we've had one for microprocessors and bandwidth.
We all benefit immensely from that kind of competition.
- crazypyro 14y agoI couldn't believe this was an actual quote. Isn't this great for everyone except maybe maker? The consumer definitely benefits if the product works the same and costs 500 dollars less.
- cube13 14y agoOnly if that type of competition results in better products. If it's just cheaper products, there's no real gain. And that's where I have a problem with this. Sure, it's completely legal. But it doesn't seem ethical to just take someone else's work wholesale and profit from it.
- replicatorblog 14y agoGood points, but the MakerBot is completely open source - so it is ethical, as long as he releases any improvements. Also, isn't equal quality for a lower price, better?
- thedeuce 14y agonot all open source requires releases of improvements, I know I would not release any improvements....I'd sell that shit like a boss
- ptorrone 14y agothe makerbot name is not open-source and kickstarter is not allowed to be used to fund a business, see their rule #1 - tangibot changed the entire kickstarter, and kickstart had them make it clear that tangibot was the deliverable -- not a business to make tangibots. it's not fair to say a tangibot is equal quality (yet). lower prices are good, everyone agrees with that though!
- samroesch 14y agoAccording to the license, "You must attribute The MakerBot Replicator to makerbot (with link)." So it's ok (and actually required) for him to mention MakerBot at least once, "(but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work.)" I don't think Matt suggested that MakerBot endorsed it in anyway, he just attributed the design ALOT!
- avolcano 14y ago"No real gain?" Of course there's real gain! Imagine small colleges, hacker spaces, and even more individuals being able to afford these things. That's a MASSIVE gain. Increasing access to this kind of product is almost, if not more, important than improving the actual product. Imagine a world in which there had never been a computing race to the bottom. Maybe every computer would be a supercomputer, sure, but then none of us would be able to afford our own computer in our own homes!
- cube13 14y agoBut even in computing, the race to the bottom produced better chips. Competition forced the companies to produce cheaper and cheaper chips, while still trying to make better ones. The TangiBot isn't a competitor to the MakerBot in the traditional sense of the word. There wasn't a parallel design process. Matt Strong has not attempted to even improve the design of the MakerBot. At best, it's a copy or the MakerBot, only cheaper. At worst, it's just a cheap knockoff.
- philh 14y agoCheaper products are available to more people to do cool things with. Better products are also good, of course. If we have to trade off "the rate products improve" verses "the rates products get cheaper", I don't know what the optimal trade is, but I'm pretty sure it's not all on one side.
- replicatorblog 14y agoThat is the best comment I've read on the matter. Great point. It will be unfortunate for MakerBot, but will hugely benefit everyone else.