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It seems like an excellent name, given that people understand it so readily, but what else would you suggest? LoopGPT?

quantumHazer 1y ago
I’m no better at naming things! Shall we propose LLM feedback loop systems? It’s more grounded in reality. Agent is like Retina Display to my ears, at least at this stage!
- closewith 1y ago
  Agent is clear in that it acts on behalf of the user. "LLM feedback loop systems" could be to do with training, customer service, etc. > Agent is like Retina Display to my ears, at least at this stage! Retina is a great name. People know what it means - high quality screens.
  - DebtDeflation 1y ago
    >Agent is clear in that it acts on behalf of the user. Yes, but you could say that AI orchestrated workflows are also acting on behalf of the user and the "Agentic AI" people seem to be going to great lengths to distinguish AI Agents from AI Workflows. Really, the only things that distinguish the AI Agent is the "running the LLM in a loop" + the LLM creating structured output.
    - closewith 1y ago
      > Really, the only things that distinguish the AI Agent is the "running the LLM in a loop" + the LLM creating structured output. Well, that UI is what makes agent such an apt name.
  - quantumHazer 1y ago
    Retina Display means nothing. Just because Apple pushed hard to make it common to everyone it doesn’t mean it’s a good technical name.
    - closewith 1y ago
      > Retina Display means nothing. It means a high-quality screen and is named after the innermost part of the eye, which evokes focused perception. > Just because Apple pushed hard to make it common to everyone it doesn’t mean it’s a good technical name. It's an excellent technical name, just like AI agent. People understand what it means with minimal education and their hunch about that meaning is usually right.
    - dahart 1y ago
      You’re right that it’s branding, but it also has meaning: a display resolution that (approximately) matches the resolution of the human retina, under typical viewing conditions. The fact that the term is easily understood by the lay public is what makes it a good name and smart branding. BTW the term ‘retinal display’ existed long before Apple used it, and refers to a display that projects directly onto the retina.
      - Aachen 1y ago
        A screen that directly projects onto the retina sounds like a great reason to call it a retinal display. So then Apple hijacking the term to mean high DPI... how does that fit in? There's not that many results about this before Apple's announcement in 2010, many of them reporting on science and not general public media: https://www.google.com/search?q=retinal+display&sca_esv=3689d8f87b454a04&biw=120&bih=206&prmd=ivsn&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A5%2F8%2F1900%2Ccd_max%3A1%2F1%2F2010&tbm= https://www.google.com/search?q=retinal+display&sca_esv=3689... Clearly not something anyone really used for an actual (not research grade) display, especially not in the meaning of high DPI This isn't an especially easily understood term: that it means "good" would have been obvious no matter what this premium brand came up with. The fact that it's from Apple makes you assume it's good. (And the screens are good)
        dahart 1y ago
        The trademark ‘retina display’ was defined to mean the display resolution approximately matches the human retina, which is why ‘retina display’ seems obvious and easy to understand. That it’s good is implied, but “good” is not the definition of the term. I know a lot of non-technical people who understand it without any trouble. Come to think of it, I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t understand it or had trouble. Are you saying you had a hard time understanding what it means? The branding term is slightly different from ‘retinal display’. The term in use may have been ‘virtual retinal display’. Dropping the ell off retinal and changing it from an adjective to a noun maybe helped their trademark application, perhaps, but since the term wasn’t in widespread use and the term is not exactly the same, that starts to contradict the idea they were ‘hijacking’ it. The fact that any company advertised it implies that it’s supposed to be good. Doesn’t matter that it was Apple, nor that it was a premium brand, when a company advertises, no company is ever suggesting anything other than it’s a good thing.
- minikomi 1y ago
  A downward spiral
  - weakfish 1y ago
    Call it Reznor to imply it’s a downward spiral?
layer8 1y ago
RePT
solomonb 1y ago
A state machine, or more specifically a Moore Machine.

I’m no better at naming things! Shall we propose LLM feedback loop systems? It’s more grounded in reality. Agent is like Retina Display to my ears, at least at this stage!

closewith 1y ago
Agent is clear in that it acts on behalf of the user. "LLM feedback loop systems" could be to do with training, customer service, etc. > Agent is like Retina Display to my ears, at least at this stage! Retina is a great name. People know what it means - high quality screens.
- DebtDeflation 1y ago
  >Agent is clear in that it acts on behalf of the user. Yes, but you could say that AI orchestrated workflows are also acting on behalf of the user and the "Agentic AI" people seem to be going to great lengths to distinguish AI Agents from AI Workflows. Really, the only things that distinguish the AI Agent is the "running the LLM in a loop" + the LLM creating structured output.
  - closewith 1y ago
    > Really, the only things that distinguish the AI Agent is the "running the LLM in a loop" + the LLM creating structured output. Well, that UI is what makes agent such an apt name.
- quantumHazer 1y ago
  Retina Display means nothing. Just because Apple pushed hard to make it common to everyone it doesn’t mean it’s a good technical name.
  - closewith 1y ago
    > Retina Display means nothing. It means a high-quality screen and is named after the innermost part of the eye, which evokes focused perception. > Just because Apple pushed hard to make it common to everyone it doesn’t mean it’s a good technical name. It's an excellent technical name, just like AI agent. People understand what it means with minimal education and their hunch about that meaning is usually right.
  - dahart 1y ago
    You’re right that it’s branding, but it also has meaning: a display resolution that (approximately) matches the resolution of the human retina, under typical viewing conditions. The fact that the term is easily understood by the lay public is what makes it a good name and smart branding. BTW the term ‘retinal display’ existed long before Apple used it, and refers to a display that projects directly onto the retina.
    - Aachen 1y ago
      A screen that directly projects onto the retina sounds like a great reason to call it a retinal display. So then Apple hijacking the term to mean high DPI... how does that fit in? There's not that many results about this before Apple's announcement in 2010, many of them reporting on science and not general public media: https://www.google.com/search?q=retinal+display&sca_esv=3689d8f87b454a04&biw=120&bih=206&prmd=ivsn&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A5%2F8%2F1900%2Ccd_max%3A1%2F1%2F2010&tbm= https://www.google.com/search?q=retinal+display&sca_esv=3689... Clearly not something anyone really used for an actual (not research grade) display, especially not in the meaning of high DPI This isn't an especially easily understood term: that it means "good" would have been obvious no matter what this premium brand came up with. The fact that it's from Apple makes you assume it's good. (And the screens are good)
      - dahart 1y ago
        The trademark ‘retina display’ was defined to mean the display resolution approximately matches the human retina, which is why ‘retina display’ seems obvious and easy to understand. That it’s good is implied, but “good” is not the definition of the term. I know a lot of non-technical people who understand it without any trouble. Come to think of it, I’ve never met anyone who doesn’t understand it or had trouble. Are you saying you had a hard time understanding what it means? The branding term is slightly different from ‘retinal display’. The term in use may have been ‘virtual retinal display’. Dropping the ell off retinal and changing it from an adjective to a noun maybe helped their trademark application, perhaps, but since the term wasn’t in widespread use and the term is not exactly the same, that starts to contradict the idea they were ‘hijacking’ it. The fact that any company advertised it implies that it’s supposed to be good. Doesn’t matter that it was Apple, nor that it was a premium brand, when a company advertises, no company is ever suggesting anything other than it’s a good thing.
minikomi 1y ago
A downward spiral
- weakfish 1y ago
  Call it Reznor to imply it’s a downward spiral?

layer8 1y ago

RePT

solomonb 1y ago

A state machine, or more specifically a Moore Machine.