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Read the news. That's why the maintainers forked it and are starting improvements on their own project. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2025/06/06/m

Read the news. That's why the maintainers forked it and are starting improvements on their own project. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2025/06/06/msg032747.html https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2025/06/06/msg032... https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver

biorach 1y ago
> Read the news. That's why the maintainers forked it It looks more like one maintainer, and it's really not clear if his problem was with corporate control, or if he just fell out with everybody.
- biorach 1y ago
  I've read some more. He's just nuts. Your talking nonsense.
ibotty 1y ago
Not a maintainer. A disgruntled developer. And one with questionable patches. Please read the gitlab discussions before coming to this conclusion.
morsch 1y ago
Previously discussed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44217735 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44217735
henearkr 1y ago
I love the idea to fork X11 if it can accelerate its development or maintenance, however in this precise case it looks like the developer who created the fork has questionable opinions about e.g. DEI, vaccines, etc, but more importantly it looks like he is willing to include references to his opinions inside the project (cf the README.md)... So, it would be awesome if somebody would just go ahead and re-fork it removing just the controversial stuff.
happymellon 1y ago
That reads like someone having a breakdown. Probably going to regret asking, but what is a "redskirt"? > doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your politicial views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just an boring average person. Anybody's welcomed, who's interested in bringing X forward. Whoh. So normally people who talk like this are far from "strong and stable", it's a call for "all lives matter". I wouldn't touch this racist heap. [Edit] And redskirt is just a misogynistic play on Star Trek red shirts. This dev sounds delightful.
- bmn__ 1y ago
  > > doesn't matter […] your race […] Anybody's welcomed > I wouldn't touch this racist heap. You are clearly unhinged. I don't know how to bring you back to sanity, but as the americans say, one cannot reason someone out of a position they have not reasoned themselves into.
  - happymellon 1y ago
    The developer is an anti-vaxxer, uses obvious misogynistic language and is full of dog whistles toward racist language. I am perfectly fine.
    - bmn__ 1y ago
      I notice you choose to shift the goalpost instead of engaging with the central point. The central point, stated clearly and unequivocally, is that the project maintainer wrote he welcomes anybody and does not care about race, and you call this racist, and thus there is a huge contradiction. I suspect you double down because you are so captured by your emotions that you cannot possibly admit the lapse in critical thinking. I predict going that path won't take you far on HN.
      - abenga 1y ago
        > he welcomes anybody and does not care about race, Ah yes, the "all lives matter" rebuttal.

biorach 1y ago

> Read the news. That's why the maintainers forked it It looks more like one maintainer, and it's really not clear if his problem was with corporate control, or if he just fell out with everybody.

biorach 1y ago
I've read some more. He's just nuts. Your talking nonsense.

ibotty 1y ago

Not a maintainer. A disgruntled developer. And one with questionable patches. Please read the gitlab discussions before coming to this conclusion.

morsch 1y ago

Previously discussed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44217735 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44217735

henearkr 1y ago

I love the idea to fork X11 if it can accelerate its development or maintenance, however in this precise case it looks like the developer who created the fork has questionable opinions about e.g. DEI, vaccines, etc, but more importantly it looks like he is willing to include references to his opinions inside the project (cf the README.md)... So, it would be awesome if somebody would just go ahead and re-fork it removing just the controversial stuff.

happymellon 1y ago

That reads like someone having a breakdown. Probably going to regret asking, but what is a "redskirt"? > doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your politicial views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just an boring average person. Anybody's welcomed, who's interested in bringing X forward. Whoh. So normally people who talk like this are far from "strong and stable", it's a call for "all lives matter". I wouldn't touch this racist heap. [Edit] And redskirt is just a misogynistic play on Star Trek red shirts. This dev sounds delightful.

bmn__ 1y ago
> > doesn't matter […] your race […] Anybody's welcomed > I wouldn't touch this racist heap. You are clearly unhinged. I don't know how to bring you back to sanity, but as the americans say, one cannot reason someone out of a position they have not reasoned themselves into.
- happymellon 1y ago
  The developer is an anti-vaxxer, uses obvious misogynistic language and is full of dog whistles toward racist language. I am perfectly fine.
  - bmn__ 1y ago
    I notice you choose to shift the goalpost instead of engaging with the central point. The central point, stated clearly and unequivocally, is that the project maintainer wrote he welcomes anybody and does not care about race, and you call this racist, and thus there is a huge contradiction. I suspect you double down because you are so captured by your emotions that you cannot possibly admit the lapse in critical thinking. I predict going that path won't take you far on HN.
    - abenga 1y ago
      > he welcomes anybody and does not care about race, Ah yes, the "all lives matter" rebuttal.