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The issue is this reaction never sticks. Everyone's up in arms, but would you really want to go back to Android KitKat or iOS 2? Probably not for more than nove

The issue is this reaction never sticks. Everyone's up in arms, but would you really want to go back to Android KitKat or iOS 2? Probably not for more than novelty, right?

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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- legitster 1y ago
  More and more features are getting added, so the UI has to get reorganized to accomodate for them. A lot of the changes for Android 16 are to accommodate wearables and folding phones and etc while keeping the controls more consistent between them.
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    Cars have also gained new features, but the steering wheel, shifter, pedals, mirrors are still in the same places since >50 years. You don't need to get a new license and re-learn how to drive every time a new model comes out because they moved the steering wheel on the ceiling to install a 32 inch LCD screen.
    - kllrnohj 1y ago
      And my android phone still has "back", "home", and "recents" buttons in the exact same place they've been since they were literal hardware buttons. Core navigation (aka, "steering") is unchanged, no new drivers license required
      - Izkata 1y ago
        Originally there was a 4th button, "menu". Android had a standard grid-shaped menu that apps could implement, that would pop up from the bottom of the screen. Also "recents" wasn't its own button, it was reached by long-pressing "home". The other button was "search".
        izacus 1y ago
        This hasn't been the case for literally decade though.
      - int_19h 1y ago
        Last I checked you had to flip a switch in settings to have all those buttons back like that; it hasn't been a default in stock Android for some time now.
- throw10920 1y ago
  > Bad faith argument. Citation needed, and you're violating the HN guidelines besides. > Assume good faith. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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layer8 1y ago
I would really want to go back to something like the look of iOS 1-6, with clearly discernible UI controls vs. content and labels. Not the real-world-mimicry skeuomorphism, but the look of the standard UI controls.
- Pxtl 1y ago
  Web ruined everything. Got everybody thinking that flag rectangles were cool and consistent ui frameworks were old fashioned.
bigstrat2003 1y ago
Yes, of course I would. Android UI has been horrible ever since 12.
justsomehnguy 1y ago
I can live another decade without an app what groups three options (one of it is "About") under a hamburger menu on a completely blank screen.
pas 1y ago
yes, who cares, let me launch apps and put widgets on the screen, what else? I like a lot of the new features, but the visual (mis)communication language is terrible.
dzikimarian 1y ago
While I like new notification management or control buttons on top of the drawer, I really wouldn't have problem using them in Holo design.
unethical_ban 1y ago
The interface of Kitkat and the UI design is fine! It looks like what Apple is moving to. Of course I want accessibility, security and technical improvements.
timewizard 1y ago
Seems fine to me. https://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.0-highlights https://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.0-hig...
AndroidKitKat 1y ago
If it was usable with the apps I need today, I would switch back to Android 4.4.2 or iOS 6.1.3 in a heartbeat. Not sure how long I would stay before the rose tint in my glasses returns to normal, but I would certainly love to try.

The issue is this reaction never sticks. Everyone's up in arms, but would you really want to go back to Android KitKat or iOS 2? Probably not for more than novelty, right?

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

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legitster 1y ago
More and more features are getting added, so the UI has to get reorganized to accomodate for them. A lot of the changes for Android 16 are to accommodate wearables and folding phones and etc while keeping the controls more consistent between them.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  Cars have also gained new features, but the steering wheel, shifter, pedals, mirrors are still in the same places since >50 years. You don't need to get a new license and re-learn how to drive every time a new model comes out because they moved the steering wheel on the ceiling to install a 32 inch LCD screen.
  - kllrnohj 1y ago
    And my android phone still has "back", "home", and "recents" buttons in the exact same place they've been since they were literal hardware buttons. Core navigation (aka, "steering") is unchanged, no new drivers license required
    - Izkata 1y ago
      Originally there was a 4th button, "menu". Android had a standard grid-shaped menu that apps could implement, that would pop up from the bottom of the screen. Also "recents" wasn't its own button, it was reached by long-pressing "home". The other button was "search".
      - izacus 1y ago
        This hasn't been the case for literally decade though.
    - int_19h 1y ago
      Last I checked you had to flip a switch in settings to have all those buttons back like that; it hasn't been a default in stock Android for some time now.
throw10920 1y ago
> Bad faith argument. Citation needed, and you're violating the HN guidelines besides. > Assume good faith. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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layer8 1y ago

I would really want to go back to something like the look of iOS 1-6, with clearly discernible UI controls vs. content and labels. Not the real-world-mimicry skeuomorphism, but the look of the standard UI controls.

Pxtl 1y ago
Web ruined everything. Got everybody thinking that flag rectangles were cool and consistent ui frameworks were old fashioned.

bigstrat2003 1y ago

Yes, of course I would. Android UI has been horrible ever since 12.

justsomehnguy 1y ago

I can live another decade without an app what groups three options (one of it is "About") under a hamburger menu on a completely blank screen.

pas 1y ago

yes, who cares, let me launch apps and put widgets on the screen, what else? I like a lot of the new features, but the visual (mis)communication language is terrible.

dzikimarian 1y ago

While I like new notification management or control buttons on top of the drawer, I really wouldn't have problem using them in Holo design.

unethical_ban 1y ago

The interface of Kitkat and the UI design is fine! It looks like what Apple is moving to. Of course I want accessibility, security and technical improvements.

timewizard 1y ago

Seems fine to me. https://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.0-highlights https://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.0-hig...

AndroidKitKat 1y ago

If it was usable with the apps I need today, I would switch back to Android 4.4.2 or iOS 6.1.3 in a heartbeat. Not sure how long I would stay before the rose tint in my glasses returns to normal, but I would certainly love to try.