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I assume you mean Patreon when you wrote pattern? You’re ignoring their main source of donations from users which is Donorbox (I donate $50/mo there for example

I assume you mean Patreon when you wrote pattern? You’re ignoring their main source of donations from users which is Donorbox (I donate $50/mo there for example which is not counted in your number) and significant money from larger sponsors which pays multiple dev salaries on Ladybird, including the main developer I would imagine since he works on it full time. Meanwhile Mozilla makes it literally impossible for me to donate to Firefox development as they only accept donations to their foundation which they don’t use to fund Firefox, and have Firefox under their for profit corporation which I can’t donate to.

maccard 1y ago
Sorry, I did mean patreon. > I donate $50/mo there for example which is not counted in your number Great, we just need 149 more people to commit to that for a year for it to be viable. > You’re ignoring their main source of donations from users which is Donorbox Which I don't have numbers for. > and significant money from larger sponsors which pays multiple dev salaries on Ladybird I'm not ignoring them. I'm specifically responding to the comment of "A lot of us would be willing to donate monthly". Based on their sponsors page, there's (at least) $400k of sponsors there. That's what paying for 7 full time developers. > Meanwhile Mozilla makes it literally impossible for me to donate to Firefox development as they only accept donations to their foundation which they don’t use to fund Firefox, and have Firefox under their for profit corporation which I can’t donate to. I never said otherwise. You're the person who who decided to bring Mozilla into a thread of privately funding donations to work specifically on Firefox and _not_ mozilla.
- einsteinx2 1y ago
  > Great, we just need 149 more people to commit to that for a year for it to be viable. Except that it is viable because they’re literally working on it full time right now with multiple devs. > Based on their sponsors page, there's (at least) $400k of sponsors there. That's what paying for 7 full time developers. Exactly, and they’re making great progress with just that. Imagine what Mozilla should be able to do with the money they have, or with the money they could have if they allowed donations to fund Firefox development. > You're the person who who decided to bring Mozilla into a thread of privately funding donations to work specifically on Firefox and _not_ mozilla. Firefox is part of Mozilla, and this is a post/comment thread about Mozilla and Firefox. I’m not sure why it’s strange I mentioned them. It’s in context with the discussion.
  - maccard 1y ago
    > Except that it is viable because they’re literally working on it full time right now with multiple devs. Paid for by the corporate sponsors. > Firefox is part of Mozilla, and this is a post/comment thread about Mozilla and Firefox. I’m not sure why it’s strange I mentioned them. It’s in context with the discussion. I replied to a comment saying: "A lot of us would be willing to donate monthly, but not to a browser which includes proprietary components, first-party ads and first part-spyware" with "I’ve been writing c++ and working in web adjacent space for 15 years. I’ve regularly thought about setting up a kickstarter for 6 months of my salary that if I reached it, I would start a patreon and work full time on Firefox, in public." and your response is "but I can't donate to mozilla to fund Firefox". I'm not talking about that, I replied to someone who wasn't talking about it. Mozilla has nothing to do with what either of us said, until you brought it up again.

maccard 1y ago

Sorry, I did mean patreon. > I donate $50/mo there for example which is not counted in your number Great, we just need 149 more people to commit to that for a year for it to be viable. > You’re ignoring their main source of donations from users which is Donorbox Which I don't have numbers for. > and significant money from larger sponsors which pays multiple dev salaries on Ladybird I'm not ignoring them. I'm specifically responding to the comment of "A lot of us would be willing to donate monthly". Based on their sponsors page, there's (at least) $400k of sponsors there. That's what paying for 7 full time developers. > Meanwhile Mozilla makes it literally impossible for me to donate to Firefox development as they only accept donations to their foundation which they don’t use to fund Firefox, and have Firefox under their for profit corporation which I can’t donate to. I never said otherwise. You're the person who who decided to bring Mozilla into a thread of privately funding donations to work specifically on Firefox and _not_ mozilla.

einsteinx2 1y ago
> Great, we just need 149 more people to commit to that for a year for it to be viable. Except that it is viable because they’re literally working on it full time right now with multiple devs. > Based on their sponsors page, there's (at least) $400k of sponsors there. That's what paying for 7 full time developers. Exactly, and they’re making great progress with just that. Imagine what Mozilla should be able to do with the money they have, or with the money they could have if they allowed donations to fund Firefox development. > You're the person who who decided to bring Mozilla into a thread of privately funding donations to work specifically on Firefox and _not_ mozilla. Firefox is part of Mozilla, and this is a post/comment thread about Mozilla and Firefox. I’m not sure why it’s strange I mentioned them. It’s in context with the discussion.
- maccard 1y ago
  > Except that it is viable because they’re literally working on it full time right now with multiple devs. Paid for by the corporate sponsors. > Firefox is part of Mozilla, and this is a post/comment thread about Mozilla and Firefox. I’m not sure why it’s strange I mentioned them. It’s in context with the discussion. I replied to a comment saying: "A lot of us would be willing to donate monthly, but not to a browser which includes proprietary components, first-party ads and first part-spyware" with "I’ve been writing c++ and working in web adjacent space for 15 years. I’ve regularly thought about setting up a kickstarter for 6 months of my salary that if I reached it, I would start a patreon and work full time on Firefox, in public." and your response is "but I can't donate to mozilla to fund Firefox". I'm not talking about that, I replied to someone who wasn't talking about it. Mozilla has nothing to do with what either of us said, until you brought it up again.