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Replacing him with kamala was the stupidest thing the dnc has done in recent years. What a vote of no confidence towards your own party when you actually bend t

Replacing him with kamala was the stupidest thing the dnc has done in recent years. What a vote of no confidence towards your own party when you actually bend to trumps bullshit ageism rhetoric and replace him at the final hour with a pick no one voted for. I just do not understand the logic behind the move for the dnc at all. Especially in hindsight when whatever it was supposed to achieve did not work at all.

spacechild1 1y ago
First, they had to replace him after his disastrous debate performance. Second, who should they have picked? Biden only dropped out in the last minute, so there was hardly any time for building up a new candidate. Biden insisted on running for a second term, against earlier promises, and failed to build up a strong successor during his first term. The Dems were in a very difficult position. Biden and his inner circle are the ones to blame here. What a historic fuck up!
- kjkjadksj 1y ago
  No one sits on the fence and watches a debate to decide their potus stance anymore, lines are already drawn in the sand at that point. But still they made a move that left many dems feeling disenfranchised having to vote for a candidate that had no primary. And what do you know, trump had more or less the same votes as in past elections while the dems didn’t turn out. I still think they should have stuck it out with joe. At least people voted for him in a primary. His economy was doing well. We emerged from the pandemic under him.
  - spacechild1 1y ago
    To be clear: I think Biden was a decent president, he just shouldn't have run for a second term. Sticking it out hasn't been an option for the Dems because Biden's mental and physical decline has become obvious by then. His poll results were already desastrous, there was no chance he could have won. If Biden had decided not to run for a second term early on, he would be remembered as the man who defeated Trump. Now he made history as the one who (unwittingly) enabled the second Trump administration. It's a tragedy.
    - ModernMech 1y ago
      Maybe maybe not. I agree with the other poster they should have stuck it out. The election polled at about even the entire race. There was a small dip after the debate, Kamala got a little bump after she came in, but it all normalized back to 50/50 before the election. Given polarization in America, that was always going to be the case whether it was Biden or Kamala or someone who was chosen through a primary. I was very confident in Biden's win because in PA where I live, he had very strong support in my community, which is working class white men. Harris lost all that support. My feeling is that Biden would have lost NC, GA, NV, NM, but he would have won PA, MI, and WI, and therefore the election. I guess we'll never know either way. But one thing we do know is that changing candidates last minute has never worked, and that track record remains undefeated. After Biden decided to stay in, the only wrong move was to replace him.
JCattheATM 1y ago
> Replacing him with Kamala was the stupidest thing the dnc has done in recent years. Not really. The choice between her and 45 should have been clear as day. She might have not been everybody's first choice, but she was more than qualified, more than competent, especially given the alternative. It shouldn't have even been a question, at all. But with how rampant misinformation is and how rare critical thinking is, here we are.
FireBeyond 1y ago
I think it's absolutely telling (on a number of levels, actually) that the number one Google search on Election Day was "Did Biden drop out?"

spacechild1 1y ago

First, they had to replace him after his disastrous debate performance. Second, who should they have picked? Biden only dropped out in the last minute, so there was hardly any time for building up a new candidate. Biden insisted on running for a second term, against earlier promises, and failed to build up a strong successor during his first term. The Dems were in a very difficult position. Biden and his inner circle are the ones to blame here. What a historic fuck up!

kjkjadksj 1y ago
No one sits on the fence and watches a debate to decide their potus stance anymore, lines are already drawn in the sand at that point. But still they made a move that left many dems feeling disenfranchised having to vote for a candidate that had no primary. And what do you know, trump had more or less the same votes as in past elections while the dems didn’t turn out. I still think they should have stuck it out with joe. At least people voted for him in a primary. His economy was doing well. We emerged from the pandemic under him.
- spacechild1 1y ago
  To be clear: I think Biden was a decent president, he just shouldn't have run for a second term. Sticking it out hasn't been an option for the Dems because Biden's mental and physical decline has become obvious by then. His poll results were already desastrous, there was no chance he could have won. If Biden had decided not to run for a second term early on, he would be remembered as the man who defeated Trump. Now he made history as the one who (unwittingly) enabled the second Trump administration. It's a tragedy.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    Maybe maybe not. I agree with the other poster they should have stuck it out. The election polled at about even the entire race. There was a small dip after the debate, Kamala got a little bump after she came in, but it all normalized back to 50/50 before the election. Given polarization in America, that was always going to be the case whether it was Biden or Kamala or someone who was chosen through a primary. I was very confident in Biden's win because in PA where I live, he had very strong support in my community, which is working class white men. Harris lost all that support. My feeling is that Biden would have lost NC, GA, NV, NM, but he would have won PA, MI, and WI, and therefore the election. I guess we'll never know either way. But one thing we do know is that changing candidates last minute has never worked, and that track record remains undefeated. After Biden decided to stay in, the only wrong move was to replace him.

JCattheATM 1y ago

> Replacing him with Kamala was the stupidest thing the dnc has done in recent years. Not really. The choice between her and 45 should have been clear as day. She might have not been everybody's first choice, but she was more than qualified, more than competent, especially given the alternative. It shouldn't have even been a question, at all. But with how rampant misinformation is and how rare critical thinking is, here we are.

FireBeyond 1y ago

I think it's absolutely telling (on a number of levels, actually) that the number one Google search on Election Day was "Did Biden drop out?"