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Op: When Fauci made comments about “get vaccinated and it’s unlikely you’ll transmit Covid” You: Fauci's statement is true. Me: How does that square with the

Op: When Fauci made comments about “get vaccinated and it’s unlikely you’ll transmit Covid” You: Fauci's statement is true. Me: How does that square with the fact that approximately everyone got covid? Do you think all of the infections came from unvaccinated people? You: The vaccine was never advertised to prevent infection 100%, especially after time. Do you see the logical disconnect here? How what you wrote was not responsive to the question?

NewJazz 1y ago
No, I don't see the disconnect. I answered the questions. The questions were moving the goalposts, which probably explains the disconnect you're describing.
- ifyoubuildit 1y ago
  That's amazing. A: If vaccinated then p(transmission) = low. B: p(transmission) != low, given that many vaccinated people had to have transmitted. How can A and B both be true? Or are you saying that B is not true, and everyone got sick via immaculate infection?
  - aaronbaugher 1y ago
    The dodge is that the real experts always admitted the shots wouldn't prevent transmission; it was just the talking heads and media who said it would, and that's where most people get their information. So now, years later when people aren't freaking out and fearing for their jobs, we're supposed to have all known all along what the real scientists behind the scenes were saying. I was told by family and friends that the shots were 100% safe and effective, and that if I didn't take the shot I wanted grandma to die, because that's what the TV told them; and when I tried to show them quotes from the actual scientists creating the shots that contradicted that, they said it was misinformation.
    - myvoiceismypass 1y ago
      > when I tried to show them quotes from the actual scientists creating the shots that contradicted that, they said it was misinformation Sorry - calling absolute bullshit on this one.
  - NewJazz 1y ago
    Neither.
    - ifyoubuildit 1y ago
      "A" was your initial assertion.
      - NewJazz 1y ago
        No, it wasn't. It is a scientifically proven assertion. Not mine.
        ifyoubuildit 1y ago
        I give up.
        NewJazz 1y ago
        On what? Trying to make a point about logical fallacies without a hint of irony? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44243759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44243759
        ifyoubuildit 1y ago
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        NewJazz 1y ago
        I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of statistical proof that you are wrong! When did I memorizing names of logical fallacies to toss them out as if they're arguments on their own? When I called your a/b bullshit a false dichotomy? Oh wait I didn't bother because you are a useless waste of space who can't even take their own advice.
        ifyoubuildit 1y ago

NewJazz 1y ago

No, I don't see the disconnect. I answered the questions. The questions were moving the goalposts, which probably explains the disconnect you're describing.

ifyoubuildit 1y ago
That's amazing. A: If vaccinated then p(transmission) = low. B: p(transmission) != low, given that many vaccinated people had to have transmitted. How can A and B both be true? Or are you saying that B is not true, and everyone got sick via immaculate infection?
- aaronbaugher 1y ago
  The dodge is that the real experts always admitted the shots wouldn't prevent transmission; it was just the talking heads and media who said it would, and that's where most people get their information. So now, years later when people aren't freaking out and fearing for their jobs, we're supposed to have all known all along what the real scientists behind the scenes were saying. I was told by family and friends that the shots were 100% safe and effective, and that if I didn't take the shot I wanted grandma to die, because that's what the TV told them; and when I tried to show them quotes from the actual scientists creating the shots that contradicted that, they said it was misinformation.
  - myvoiceismypass 1y ago
    > when I tried to show them quotes from the actual scientists creating the shots that contradicted that, they said it was misinformation Sorry - calling absolute bullshit on this one.
- NewJazz 1y ago
  Neither.
  - ifyoubuildit 1y ago
    "A" was your initial assertion.
    - NewJazz 1y ago
      No, it wasn't. It is a scientifically proven assertion. Not mine.
      - ifyoubuildit 1y ago
        I give up.
        NewJazz 1y ago
        On what? Trying to make a point about logical fallacies without a hint of irony? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44243759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44243759
        ifyoubuildit 1y ago
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        NewJazz 1y ago
        I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sound of statistical proof that you are wrong! When did I memorizing names of logical fallacies to toss them out as if they're arguments on their own? When I called your a/b bullshit a false dichotomy? Oh wait I didn't bother because you are a useless waste of space who can't even take their own advice.
        ifyoubuildit 1y ago