You said earlier: > This suggests they knew what was really going on, so it wasn't fraud in their eyes. But now when we are talking about obvious fraud everyo

You said earlier: > This suggests they knew what was really going on, so it wasn't fraud in their eyes. But now when we are talking about obvious fraud everyone agrees about and which caused investors to pull money you are pivoting to a quibble about whether the marketing was lies or not. Maybe a company which lies about its sales figures can't be trusted to be truthful about its product