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I'm getting the same on my new rMBP. It shipped with Mountain Lion and an SSD installed, so I expected waking up to be almost instant, but it takes at least 5+

I'm getting the same on my new rMBP. It shipped with Mountain Lion and an SSD installed, so I expected waking up to be almost instant, but it takes at least 5+ seconds for the screen to update (battery/clock display old info) or I can input my password. I also get a lot of graphical glitches (mostly in Safari).

aaronbrethorst 14y ago
Safari 6 is awful. I find that I have to close all of my tabs, quit it, and reopen at least three times a day. Never had this problem with 5.x. Also, the developer tools are so unusable for me that I've started doing my web design work in Chrome just to get a sane, tolerable HTML/CSS editing experience.
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  I don't understand why anyone, least of all a developer, would use Safari.
  - aaronbrethorst 14y ago
    Modulo the aforementioned issues, I think that the user experience is far superior to Chrome. Here are a couple examples: * iOS-like pinch/zoom * Quick access to bookmark bar bookmarks with Cmd-[0-9] * iCloud tabs (w/ Mobile Safari) * Reader * Better feedback on page back/forward gestures
    - drivebyacct2 14y ago
      * Chrome has that. * I don't really see the usefulness. I prefer Cmd-[0-9] for tab access. * Chrome syncs between my three computers, phone, tablet. It's not just bookmarks. It's everything * Doesn't Safari not have a reader anymore? * I guess it's a matter of preference but I get a nice arrow indicator for page forward and backward. The Safari effect is a bit much in my opinion.
      - aaronbrethorst 14y ago
        * Chrome changes the font size; it doesn't zoom the page. At least in v22. * I don't see the usefulness in tab access. To each their own. * Chrome on iOS doesn't have access to Nitro. * Come again? Reader is the Safari feature adapted from Arc90's Readability bookmarklet. * Right.
      - pooriaazimi 14y ago
        I like Cmd-[0-9] to map to my bookmarks, I like Safari Reader, I like iOS-like zoom (chrome only fakes it, and does so not very well), I like the rendered text on Safari a million times better (it's not anti-aliased on Chrome on most pages - at least that's the miserable state Chrome was till v19 I think), I like iCloud tabs and I like Safari's UI much better. That's why I use Safari. I couldn't possibly live with Chrome even if Safari was worse that it - I absolutely hate the stupid download bar, or "Downloads/Preferences" not being standard windows but silly webpages. And don't get me started on custom contextual menus Chrome team thought were cooler than standard OS X menus (even if they were cooler, they're at least 5 times slower. So what's the point of them?) That said, it all comes down to what your personal preferences are. The difference between browsers are not huge. Some like Safari, some like Chrome, and some like Lynx.
        drivebyacct2 14y ago
        Most of your complaints are flatly wrong. And some of them were never even accurate.
        taligent 14y ago
        Just because you disagree with his opinion doesn't mean he is wrong.
        drivebyacct2 14y ago
        No, several of the things he listed are literally lies or misconceptions or are factually wrong. I don't know why he prefers the things he does, but I don't dispute that he may well feel that way, nor do I care that he does.

aaronbrethorst 14y ago

Safari 6 is awful. I find that I have to close all of my tabs, quit it, and reopen at least three times a day. Never had this problem with 5.x. Also, the developer tools are so unusable for me that I've started doing my web design work in Chrome just to get a sane, tolerable HTML/CSS editing experience.

drivebyacct2 14y ago
I don't understand why anyone, least of all a developer, would use Safari.
- aaronbrethorst 14y ago
  Modulo the aforementioned issues, I think that the user experience is far superior to Chrome. Here are a couple examples: * iOS-like pinch/zoom * Quick access to bookmark bar bookmarks with Cmd-[0-9] * iCloud tabs (w/ Mobile Safari) * Reader * Better feedback on page back/forward gestures
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    * Chrome has that. * I don't really see the usefulness. I prefer Cmd-[0-9] for tab access. * Chrome syncs between my three computers, phone, tablet. It's not just bookmarks. It's everything * Doesn't Safari not have a reader anymore? * I guess it's a matter of preference but I get a nice arrow indicator for page forward and backward. The Safari effect is a bit much in my opinion.
    - aaronbrethorst 14y ago
      * Chrome changes the font size; it doesn't zoom the page. At least in v22. * I don't see the usefulness in tab access. To each their own. * Chrome on iOS doesn't have access to Nitro. * Come again? Reader is the Safari feature adapted from Arc90's Readability bookmarklet. * Right.
    - pooriaazimi 14y ago
      I like Cmd-[0-9] to map to my bookmarks, I like Safari Reader, I like iOS-like zoom (chrome only fakes it, and does so not very well), I like the rendered text on Safari a million times better (it's not anti-aliased on Chrome on most pages - at least that's the miserable state Chrome was till v19 I think), I like iCloud tabs and I like Safari's UI much better. That's why I use Safari. I couldn't possibly live with Chrome even if Safari was worse that it - I absolutely hate the stupid download bar, or "Downloads/Preferences" not being standard windows but silly webpages. And don't get me started on custom contextual menus Chrome team thought were cooler than standard OS X menus (even if they were cooler, they're at least 5 times slower. So what's the point of them?) That said, it all comes down to what your personal preferences are. The difference between browsers are not huge. Some like Safari, some like Chrome, and some like Lynx.
      - drivebyacct2 14y ago
        Most of your complaints are flatly wrong. And some of them were never even accurate.
        taligent 14y ago
        Just because you disagree with his opinion doesn't mean he is wrong.
        drivebyacct2 14y ago
        No, several of the things he listed are literally lies or misconceptions or are factually wrong. I don't know why he prefers the things he does, but I don't dispute that he may well feel that way, nor do I care that he does.