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> You suggest not enforcing federal laws I explicitly did not suggest that: > There were, and are, many other options available to the government that would n
by coldpie 1y ago
> You suggest not enforcing federal laws
I explicitly did not suggest that:
> There were, and are, many other options available to the government that would not have lead to this escalation & violence.
- philwelch 1y agoYou suggested not detaining and deporting illegal aliens, which is what enforcing immigration law would require. What hair are you trying to split?
- coldpie 1y ago> which is what enforcing immigration law would require Citation needed.
- philwelch 1y agoAre you intentionally being difficult here or do you seriously not know the first thing about immigration law?
- coldpie 1y agoYou're the one making claims that the only possible response to this problem was to send armed military personnel to a US city to arrest some people hanging outside a Home Depot or whatever. Please back up your assertion with evidence.
- philwelch 1y agoThat's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that enforcing immigration law entails apprehending and deporting illegal aliens. The troops weren't deployed until after the rioting started.
- coldpie 1y ago> I'm saying that enforcing immigration law entails apprehending and deporting illegal aliens. Okay, fine. You still haven't provide any evidence to back this up.
- philwelch 1y ago8 USC § 1227 covers deportation: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1227%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1227)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1... And 1226 covers apprehension and detention: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?hl=false&edition=prelim&req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title8-section1226&num=0&saved=%7CKHRpdGxlOjggc2VjdGlvbjoxMjI3IGVkaXRpb246cHJlbGltKSBPUiAoZ3JhbnVsZWlkOlVTQy1wcmVsaW0tdGl0bGU4LXNlY3Rpb24xMjI3KQ%3D%3D%7CdHJlZXNvcnQ%3D%7C%7C0%7Cfalse%7Cprelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?hl=false&edition=prelim&...
- ModernMech 1y agoObama deported people at a higher rate than even Trump is now, and no riots happened. Can you articulate what the difference is between how Obama and Trump operated, and use that to explain why Obama didn't trigger riots while Trump did?
- philwelch 1y agoObviously, the riots are politically coordinated.
- ModernMech 1y agoThat's not obvious, you'll have to prove that statement.
- philwelch 1y agoIn your own words: > Obama deported people at a higher rate than even Trump is now, and no riots happened. It isn’t a spontaneous riot; it’s a coordinated attempt to ‘resist’ the administration, with elected Democrats and blue-aligned media constantly fanning the flames. We saw the same playbook five years ago.
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