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This is a win. Mozilla should focus on their core product, Firefox. Even though I'm a fan of Thunderbird, still Firefox is much more important All the other se

This is a win. Mozilla should focus on their core product, Firefox. Even though I'm a fan of Thunderbird, still Firefox is much more important All the other services always seemed like somebody wanted to add a bullet point to their CV

elric 1y ago
Bold of you to assume that that's what they'll use the freed resources on. From everything I've seen over the last couple of years, it seems more likely they'll spend more time on AI garbage no one wants, and will increase the CEO's bonus.
- shakna 1y ago
  > This shift allows us to shape the next era of the internet – with tools like vertical tabs, smart search and more AI-powered features on the way. We’ll continue to build a browser that works harder for you: more personal, more powerful and still proudly independent. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/
  - elric 1y ago
    Are they serious? Vertical tabs? That's a trivial feature that's been implemented by plugins for decades. I've been using vertical tabs for as long as I've been using firefox, probably since it was still called Phoenix or Firebird. Smart search: what even is that? Is that the default garbage in the address bar that I have to disable on every fresh install? I don't want my browser to search. I've got search engines for that. I might want a better in-page search, with regex support. Maybe even with fuzzy search support. But that's probably not considered "smart". AI-powered features: such as what? Why would this be a compelling feature? A better editor on saved form data would be actually useful. Editable, per-website autocomplete in forms would be useful. But I guess that's not as flashy. If these are their best ideas for "the next era of the internet", they might as well throw in the towel. I'm trying my best not to be too negative, but yikes they make it hard.
    - shakna 1y ago
      Smart Search is adding a few dropdowns to let you search your history easier. [0] It's... Not exactly a killer feature. What's the bet that AI is where they're spending all their effort? [0] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/address-bar/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/address-bar/
      - elric 1y ago
        Yeah, I hate it. I've mostly tweaked mine to be as close to an address bar as possible, but I still haven't found a way to fully revert it to an address bar. I don't mind it searching in my history or bookmarks. But automatically sending my keystrokes to a search engine by default is something that really pisses me off. I have an address bar and a search bar. One is for entering addresses, the other is for entering searches. I don't quite get why they insist on turning them into one big ball of mud.
        JohnFen 1y ago
        Yeah, the "awesome bar" has long been one of my pet peeves about Firefox. It used to be possible to correct it by disabling stuff, but as time has gone on that has become less effective.
  - LtdJorge 1y ago
    Yeah, we’ll see about that

elric 1y ago

Bold of you to assume that that's what they'll use the freed resources on. From everything I've seen over the last couple of years, it seems more likely they'll spend more time on AI garbage no one wants, and will increase the CEO's bonus.

shakna 1y ago
> This shift allows us to shape the next era of the internet – with tools like vertical tabs, smart search and more AI-powered features on the way. We’ll continue to build a browser that works harder for you: more personal, more powerful and still proudly independent. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/building-whats-next/
- elric 1y ago
  Are they serious? Vertical tabs? That's a trivial feature that's been implemented by plugins for decades. I've been using vertical tabs for as long as I've been using firefox, probably since it was still called Phoenix or Firebird. Smart search: what even is that? Is that the default garbage in the address bar that I have to disable on every fresh install? I don't want my browser to search. I've got search engines for that. I might want a better in-page search, with regex support. Maybe even with fuzzy search support. But that's probably not considered "smart". AI-powered features: such as what? Why would this be a compelling feature? A better editor on saved form data would be actually useful. Editable, per-website autocomplete in forms would be useful. But I guess that's not as flashy. If these are their best ideas for "the next era of the internet", they might as well throw in the towel. I'm trying my best not to be too negative, but yikes they make it hard.
  - shakna 1y ago
    Smart Search is adding a few dropdowns to let you search your history easier. [0] It's... Not exactly a killer feature. What's the bet that AI is where they're spending all their effort? [0] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/address-bar/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/address-bar/
    - elric 1y ago
      Yeah, I hate it. I've mostly tweaked mine to be as close to an address bar as possible, but I still haven't found a way to fully revert it to an address bar. I don't mind it searching in my history or bookmarks. But automatically sending my keystrokes to a search engine by default is something that really pisses me off. I have an address bar and a search bar. One is for entering addresses, the other is for entering searches. I don't quite get why they insist on turning them into one big ball of mud.
      - JohnFen 1y ago
        Yeah, the "awesome bar" has long been one of my pet peeves about Firefox. It used to be possible to correct it by disabling stuff, but as time has gone on that has become less effective.
- LtdJorge 1y ago
  Yeah, we’ll see about that