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Seems to me that sending the USMC to protect a burning Waymo is a bit of an overreaction.
by khazhoux 1y ago
Seems to me that sending the USMC to protect a burning Waymo is a bit of an overreaction.
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- speakfreely 1y agoYes, but their performative purpose is to create the illusion that the situation is out of the control of the civilian authorities.
- MaxHoppersGhost 1y agoHave you seen the photos? The situation is out of control. Cops were hiding under bridges while their cars are destroyed by rocks and Molotov cocktails. It’s a shitshow.
- komali2 1y agoA problem easily solved by the cops simply leaving. The cops escalated every situation they arrived at.
- speakfreely 1y agoActually, if a mob of angry people is setting my car on fire, I'd prefer that the cops don't leave.
- aaronbaugher 1y agoSeems like it would be their job not to leave. If they just leave when people and property are being threatened, why do we pay them?
- komali2 1y agoCar fires didn't happen until the cops showed up. The cops and ICE escalated an otherwise peaceful situation.
- ImJamal 1y agoAre you suggesting that the cops started the fires or that the protestors decided to light things on fire after the cops showed up?
- komali2 1y agoI'm not suggesting anything, yesterday I was watching live footage and saw a tear gas grenade fall into a pile of junk near a car and light both on fire. I tried to track down a clip of it but the media is focused so much on waymos it's impossible to sort through the noise. Perhaps in a couple days it'll warrant a story. Agitators unrelated to protests have been known to kick shit up, such as during black lives matter protests when white supremacists would break windows. https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536 https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-rio... Anyway, if the cops weren't there, there'd be no fires. Ergo the cops shouldn't be there. Seems like a pretty simple algebra to me. The "just submit" ideology that people seem to be touting demonstrates a lack of understanding of American psychology. The country was founded on revolution against a despot, that's the core American value. You can't deal with a population like that by sending in storm troopers, that will obviously just escalate the situation. The government needs to be realistic about the situation and seek alternative measures if their goal is to deport the neighbors of people who love the 2nd amendment. Perhaps they could simply give up on that goal, that's what I would advise.
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- speakfreely 1y agoI meant that there are more than sufficient civilian law enforcement resources to address the problem. Between LAPD, CHP, and the various federal agencies, they could easily surge thousands of officers there if they needed to.
- rocqua 1y agoBy what authority can they actually use violence to guard these federal workers and buildings? Not the insurection act, and so not at all due to pose comitatus. What can they do to guard then?
- hparadiz 1y agoTypically their presence alone is enough to stop anything new from happening. In theory they would only need to use enough violence to defend themselves. That's how we got Kent State but in general Kent State was also because the guards in that situation found themselves alone and isolated with little training. In a modern context 60 national guards standing around outside of a downtown highrise with a couple Humvees is unlikely to see any escalation.