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This is a step back for science in the service of public health - I'm sad for the many children that will die needless deaths
by sys13 1y ago
This is a step back for science in the service of public health - I'm sad for the many children that will die needless deaths
- normalaccess 1y ago[flagged]
- rblatz 1y agoIt's amazing that within a single person's lifetime we can completely as a society forget how horrible these diseases were, and why vaccination was so popular and transformative around the world. Truly a victim of their own success.
- calgaryeng 1y agoYou are apt to be wrong.
- flanked-evergl 1y ago[flagged]
- drekk 1y agoThe pharmaceutical industry cannot make money off of you if you die of measles as an infant.
- flanked-evergl 1y ago[flagged]
- thatfrenchguy 1y agoThey absolutely will given how much an hospital stay costs.
- dh2022 1y agoNit: when anyone dies in a hospital the money-makers are the health providers, not the drug-makers. Health providers (think “non-profit” hospitals and medical centers, as well as clinics) have the biggest operating profit margin and return on equity in this business: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/insurance-companies-arent-the-main https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/insurance-companies-arent-the-...
- cosmicgadget 1y agoWhere does your link say that?
- dh2022 1y agoSorry maybe the link I pasted is pay-walled and probably the content is incomplete. Here is a link which is not paywalled https://archive.is/bRy5l https://archive.is/bRy5l
- cosmicgadget 1y agoThank you. And there is a WSJ article linked that talks about nonprofit hospitals having high executive comp and funding new projects. It does also say: > To be sure, some nonprofit hospitals, particularly ones in inner cities that handle large numbers of uninsured patients, remain under financial strain and are struggling to keep their doors open. And it is also worth mentioning that in some (many?) systems, 'providers' refers to physicians who aren't part of the hospital system in which they work. So the doctors can be doing just fine while the hospital is barely scraping by.
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- _aavaa_ 1y agoI hear from people who in the same breath then tell me the benefits of the natural chemical-free supplements they're taking, as if the supplement industry doesn't exist.
- KennyBlanken 1y agoNot only "exists", but has managed to fight off almost any form of regulation whatsoever. There are no regulations requiring they disclose everything that is in the supplement (so a vitamin C supplement can contain Vitamin E, at any concentration, with no mention of it on the label), or that the label have correct concentration information, or be free from substances known to be toxic to humans. I think the only thing they're required to do is meet manufacturing facility standards. Labdoor and others have found high levels of Arsenic and other poisonous materials in protein powder. Protein powder! Which apparently gets to skip all FDA regulation by being called a "supplement."
- triceratops 1y agoAre vaccines like a high-profit margin item or something? I thought that honor went to cholesterol or obesity or depression medicine.
- flanked-evergl 1y ago[flagged]
- triceratops 1y agoSo slightly more money for 2 years? Do you even know how much money cholesterol medicines or Ozempic make and for how long? You don't even know how to spell Pfizer.
- flanked-evergl 1y agoDoubled revenue at significantly lower cost for three years followed by continued recommendation from government for an untested and evidence free booster is not "slightly more money".
- adambatkin 1y ago[flagged]
- spondylosaurus 1y agoPlus... I thought on HN we liked when innovative companies made money from those innovations :P I would prefer if pharmaceutical companies made lifesaving drugs out of the good of their hearts vs. out of their love of profit, but if "love of profit" is the only option right now then shit, I'll take it.
- hiccuphippo 1y agoMaybe the lack of deaths is what raises this anti-vaccine ideology. Where I come from, whenever 2 old women meet, I noticed they always ask how many children they had. And the response is always a variation of: 6 children, 4 alive, 2 dead. Child mortality is still present in their minds. This is inconceivable to me but my generation still listens to the stories. The future generations are not gonna listen to these stories, the US is probably already in such a future.
- M95D 1y agoJust look at this as a step forward for natural selection. Anti-vaxers will remove themselves from the gene pool.