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I really dig apple's work. It's so refreshing to get a tech event in 2025 where design is a huge focus and not just duck taping another LLM to everything. Desig

I really dig apple's work. It's so refreshing to get a tech event in 2025 where design is a huge focus and not just duck taping another LLM to everything. Design is expensive and it's clear they've invested a massive amount of resources into liquid glass. It's not perfect, but I think they'll iron out some of the contrast bugs. Agreed with other commenters that crappy electron apps will look increasingly out of place (... slack ...). Too bad LLM's coding efficiencies haven't been used to try to get us back to native UIs from electron yet. Companies would rather pocket the savings.

tiltowait 1y ago
I've installed the beta, and I really like how it looks and works. Like you said, it's not perfect, but I expect the small gripes I have so far will be ironed out before long.
microtonal 1y ago
It's so refreshing to get a tech event in 2025 where design is a huge focus and not just duck taping another LLM to everything. I don't want to make this an Apple vs. Google comment (Mac user since 2007, iPhone user since 2009), but Google spend a good chunk of time on their Material Design 3 Expressive redesign at the Android event a few weeks ago.
- cosmic_cheese 1y ago
  MD3 feels pretty tame in comparison, though. Mostly still the same flat look but with more roundness and louder colors. I think it’s going to end up dated looking much, much more quickly than MD1/MD2 did.
  - testfrequency 1y ago
    Tame is what Apple should have shipped instead of this liquid glass disaster.
  - lazharichir 1y ago
    to be fair, i'd take tame over horrendous and unparseable screen any day.
leakycap 1y ago
Apple didn't talk about AI or Siri because they're currently flailing and so behind it's concerning. This was design-focused because skin-deep was all they accomplished.
- Manfred 1y ago
  A company with thousands of developers can focus on multiple things at once. I'm happy they are trying to improve all parts of the operating system and not just AI features I personally will never use.
- nicoburns 1y ago
  > Apple didn't talk about AI or Siri because they're currently flailing and so behind it's concerning. Either concerning or reassuring depending on your perspective. I for one will be glad if there's a platform left that hasn't been invaded by AI.
  - leakycap 1y ago
    I wouldn't find the company's inability to deliver on their own top priorities something to take a sigh of relief about. What internal issues is a company like this also failing to deliver? A problem like this doesn't come about in isolation.
    - nicoburns 1y ago
      Eh. Apple have always been good at products and bad at services.
      - leakycap 1y ago
        If you're here to make excuses for them, that's totally fine. I'd like to see Apple do better.
  - brenns10 1y ago
    > I for one will be glad if there's a platform left that hasn't been invaded by AI. There's always Linux! ;)
lxgr 1y ago
Not sure a massive misallocation of resources is something to celebrate. > Agreed with other commenters that crappy electron apps will look increasingly out of place Aesthetics is the smallest problem I've had with Electron (or generally non-native) apps.
- BeFlatXIII 1y ago
  What makes you so convinced it's a misallocation?
  - lxgr 1y ago
    Looking at it.
seydor 1y ago
Did you mean 2007 when Windows Vista was released"?

tiltowait 1y ago

I've installed the beta, and I really like how it looks and works. Like you said, it's not perfect, but I expect the small gripes I have so far will be ironed out before long.

microtonal 1y ago

It's so refreshing to get a tech event in 2025 where design is a huge focus and not just duck taping another LLM to everything. I don't want to make this an Apple vs. Google comment (Mac user since 2007, iPhone user since 2009), but Google spend a good chunk of time on their Material Design 3 Expressive redesign at the Android event a few weeks ago.

cosmic_cheese 1y ago
MD3 feels pretty tame in comparison, though. Mostly still the same flat look but with more roundness and louder colors. I think it’s going to end up dated looking much, much more quickly than MD1/MD2 did.
- testfrequency 1y ago
  Tame is what Apple should have shipped instead of this liquid glass disaster.
- lazharichir 1y ago
  to be fair, i'd take tame over horrendous and unparseable screen any day.

leakycap 1y ago

Apple didn't talk about AI or Siri because they're currently flailing and so behind it's concerning. This was design-focused because skin-deep was all they accomplished.

Manfred 1y ago
A company with thousands of developers can focus on multiple things at once. I'm happy they are trying to improve all parts of the operating system and not just AI features I personally will never use.
nicoburns 1y ago
> Apple didn't talk about AI or Siri because they're currently flailing and so behind it's concerning. Either concerning or reassuring depending on your perspective. I for one will be glad if there's a platform left that hasn't been invaded by AI.
- leakycap 1y ago
  I wouldn't find the company's inability to deliver on their own top priorities something to take a sigh of relief about. What internal issues is a company like this also failing to deliver? A problem like this doesn't come about in isolation.
  - nicoburns 1y ago
    Eh. Apple have always been good at products and bad at services.
    - leakycap 1y ago
      If you're here to make excuses for them, that's totally fine. I'd like to see Apple do better.
- brenns10 1y ago
  > I for one will be glad if there's a platform left that hasn't been invaded by AI. There's always Linux! ;)

lxgr 1y ago

Not sure a massive misallocation of resources is something to celebrate. > Agreed with other commenters that crappy electron apps will look increasingly out of place Aesthetics is the smallest problem I've had with Electron (or generally non-native) apps.

BeFlatXIII 1y ago
What makes you so convinced it's a misallocation?
- lxgr 1y ago
  Looking at it.

seydor 1y ago

Did you mean 2007 when Windows Vista was released"?