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Well, a larger issue seems to be that this whole idea is premised on taxing an unrealized gain. If I create a painting, I don't owe any taxes on it until I sell

Well, a larger issue seems to be that this whole idea is premised on taxing an unrealized gain. If I create a painting, I don't owe any taxes on it until I sell it. If the world decides that I'm Picasso and my sneezing on a canvas means it's worth $50 million, it still won't be true that, after I sneeze without covering my mouth and some spittle lands on one of my blank canvases, a government official shows up to my house to force me to sell it so that I can pay the taxes I owe for creating it.

sethherr 1y ago
While I understand the drawbacks, the current situation - where the ultra-wealthy don’t pay taxes because all their wealth is in unrealized gain - is even worse
- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  > the current situation - where the ultra-wealthy don’t pay taxes because all their wealth is in unrealized gain This is neither the current situation nor even a theoretical possibility.
  - sethherr 1y ago
    Sorry, "don't pay taxes" was hyperbole - what I meant was have a lower tax rate than the rest of us. Isn't that the whole point of all sorts of tax strategies, for instance Buy, Borrow, Die? https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrae/2022/07/14/how-the-rich-use-the-buy-borrow-die-strategy-to-avoid-large-tax-bills/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrae/2022/07/14/how-the-ric...
- freeone3000 1y ago
  This valuation of software for business taxes. If a business never sells its software, the software may very well have no value.
  - sahila 1y ago
    What about an internal tool that helps improves processes but doesn't ever sell or google.com and gmail which are free to users?
xlii 1y ago
IMO this is the best definition. Especially since even in semantics we call highly successful companies „unicorns”. Because it’s rare. Usually software is worthless, whatever quality. I failed my own software company twice. If such politic would be in effect I couldn’t even try once.

sethherr 1y ago

While I understand the drawbacks, the current situation - where the ultra-wealthy don’t pay taxes because all their wealth is in unrealized gain - is even worse

thaumasiotes 1y ago
> the current situation - where the ultra-wealthy don’t pay taxes because all their wealth is in unrealized gain This is neither the current situation nor even a theoretical possibility.
- sethherr 1y ago
  Sorry, "don't pay taxes" was hyperbole - what I meant was have a lower tax rate than the rest of us. Isn't that the whole point of all sorts of tax strategies, for instance Buy, Borrow, Die? https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrae/2022/07/14/how-the-rich-use-the-buy-borrow-die-strategy-to-avoid-large-tax-bills/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrae/2022/07/14/how-the-ric...
freeone3000 1y ago
This valuation of software for business taxes. If a business never sells its software, the software may very well have no value.
- sahila 1y ago
  What about an internal tool that helps improves processes but doesn't ever sell or google.com and gmail which are free to users?

xlii 1y ago

IMO this is the best definition. Especially since even in semantics we call highly successful companies „unicorns”. Because it’s rare. Usually software is worthless, whatever quality. I failed my own software company twice. If such politic would be in effect I couldn’t even try once.