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I'm not talking about whether you guys should give him money. But it's totally normal for a country to try to defend itself. I honestly don't understand why p

I'm not talking about whether you guys should give him money. But it's totally normal for a country to try to defend itself. I honestly don't understand why people seem to ignore this angle and just keep talking about budget and money and foreign interests and nato and what not. Ok, you don't want to give Ukraine money for their defence, FINE, do not give them money! But why do you have to frame it as zelenski is corrupt, traitor, murderer, boogyman or whatever. No normal leader of a country being invaded would be expected to surrender their country. They would have been hanged by their own people. What I find infuriating about this discourse is the double standard. At the same time the american right is absolutely going bezerk over "immigrant invasion" and when some other people suffer an invasion "nah, I don't see the problem, they will just get along fine if they surrender". You're free to spend your money as you wish, but it's the total lack of empathy (about this and other causes) that rubs me the wrong way.

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  Would you please stop posting flamewar comments to HN? You've been breaking the site guidelines very badly for a long time, and we ban accounts that do that. Since it doesn't look like we've warned you before, I'm not going to ban your account right now, but if you keep doing this, we're going to have to. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. This means, among other things, not posting flamewar comments (including nationalistic flamewar), not attacking other users, and not using HN primarily for political or ideological battle.
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You've been continuing to use HN primarily for political/nationalistic battle, despite our having asked you more than once to stop. You've also been breaking the site guidelines badly in other ways too (such as with personal attacks, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43524157 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43524157). If this keeps up, we're going to have to ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html