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I never understood why cryptomining never took off. The biggest issue I have with paying for anything on the internet is that I don’t want to have to enter my p
by lurk2 1y ago
I never understood why cryptomining never took off. The biggest issue I have with paying for anything on the internet is that I don’t want to have to enter my payment details everywhere I go. If a service mines on a user’s machine, they just pay for it indirectly via their electric bill.
I guess the problem probably has to do with the value of the GPU cycles being lower than the served content. This is most apparent in the case of AI; e.g. if the mining lasts as long as the session, and the server runs 2 GPUs while the user is only running 1, then you can’t complete the “payment” unless the mining continues beyond the length of the session.
- Tepix 1y agoLook at the actual numbers. There‘s a large percentage of mobile users. Then there are users on laptops with iGPUs. To crypto mine even 1 cent would take forever.
- theanonymousone 1y agoNow that the AI overlords demand more and more training data, maybe we will start "paying" by annotating some unit of information, aka Captcha-style.
- hedora 1y agoYou’re describing google. Though training data sets based on private information about people are worth more to them, so they focus on that. That lets them do things like run crooked ad auctions that screw websites and advertisers, intentionally worsen search results exactly enough to maximize profits, and other stuff that came out during their trial.
- theanonymousone 1y agoI understand your point. But in my hypothetical model, the paying entity (the customer) does not have an incentive in manipulating the search results, and the search is still optimised (only) for relevance to the user query.
- kqr 1y agoMost users are on a batteried device. I'm not sure they're willing to pay in battery time and health.
- carlosjobim 1y ago>...I don’t want to have to enter my payment details everywhere I go That problem has been solved for anybody who wants it solved, through Apple Pay and Google Pay, or even the built-in feature in the browser for remembering credit cards. Normal people absolutely would not accept websites hi-jacking their computer to mine crypto and hardware manufacturers like Apple would swiftly implement measures to protect users from those freaks.
- Biganon 1y agoHow do you prove you've effectively tried mining, like the server asked you to?