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I missed that the article is talking about Gulf monarchy autocrats instead of U.S. autocrats. That is very simple: First, dumping graphics cards on trusting Sa

I missed that the article is talking about Gulf monarchy autocrats instead of U.S. autocrats. That is very simple: First, dumping graphics cards on trusting Saudi investors seems like a great idea for Nvidia. Second, the Gulf monarchies depend on the U.S. and want to avoid Islamic revolutions. Third, they hopefully use solar cells to power the data centers. Will they track users? Of course, and GCHQ and the NSA can have intelligence sharing agreements that circumvent their local laws. There is nothing new here. Just don't trust your thoughts to any SAAS service.

zelphirkalt 1y ago
But at the end of the day HN is a small bubble and many people out there are not well informed and even more will trade privacy for convenience sooner or later. Making it so that the temptations do not even come into existence would be preferable from a certain point of view.
timewizard 1y ago
> Just don't trust your thoughts It's a little more insidious than that, though, isn't it? They've got my purchases, address history, phone call metadata, and now with DOGE much of our federal data. They don't need a twitter feed to be adversarial to my interests. > to any SAAS service. They're madly scraping the web. I think your perimeter is much larger than SAAS.
ReptileMan 1y ago
>the Gulf monarchies depend on the U.S. and want to avoid Islamic revolutions There is no one left to islamic revolute in the small gulf states. The natives are minority, the security forces are all foreigners directly under the command of the ruler and in some cases outnumber the total native population. And the natives are too well fed to have the fight in them to risk it all.
- lupusreal 1y ago
  You describe a situation ripe for violent inversion, albeit perhaps not of an Islamic flavor.
  - ReptileMan 1y ago
    Only if their economies crash or something like that. So far the demographics are in extreme cases something like 10% natives, 20% expats, 70% migrant workers in various forms of indentured servitude. External intervention - could work, but the gulf war showed that it won't be tolerated. Internal strife - could be, but so far everyone is living la dolce vita there (at least the ones with the means and capacity to organize this inversion). Saudi Arabia is the only one vulnerable - but if there is something there it won't be islamist because the people seems to not be too fond for both Wahhabism and the royal family.
Havoc 1y ago
> they hopefully use solar cells to power the data centers. That seems incredibly optimistic. If anything I’m expecting them to be some of the worst polluters in the AI race. The temptation to burn oil and gas is too strong when you have an endless supply

zelphirkalt 1y ago

But at the end of the day HN is a small bubble and many people out there are not well informed and even more will trade privacy for convenience sooner or later. Making it so that the temptations do not even come into existence would be preferable from a certain point of view.

timewizard 1y ago

> Just don't trust your thoughts It's a little more insidious than that, though, isn't it? They've got my purchases, address history, phone call metadata, and now with DOGE much of our federal data. They don't need a twitter feed to be adversarial to my interests. > to any SAAS service. They're madly scraping the web. I think your perimeter is much larger than SAAS.

ReptileMan 1y ago

>the Gulf monarchies depend on the U.S. and want to avoid Islamic revolutions There is no one left to islamic revolute in the small gulf states. The natives are minority, the security forces are all foreigners directly under the command of the ruler and in some cases outnumber the total native population. And the natives are too well fed to have the fight in them to risk it all.

lupusreal 1y ago
You describe a situation ripe for violent inversion, albeit perhaps not of an Islamic flavor.
- ReptileMan 1y ago
  Only if their economies crash or something like that. So far the demographics are in extreme cases something like 10% natives, 20% expats, 70% migrant workers in various forms of indentured servitude. External intervention - could work, but the gulf war showed that it won't be tolerated. Internal strife - could be, but so far everyone is living la dolce vita there (at least the ones with the means and capacity to organize this inversion). Saudi Arabia is the only one vulnerable - but if there is something there it won't be islamist because the people seems to not be too fond for both Wahhabism and the royal family.

Havoc 1y ago

> they hopefully use solar cells to power the data centers. That seems incredibly optimistic. If anything I’m expecting them to be some of the worst polluters in the AI race. The temptation to burn oil and gas is too strong when you have an endless supply